What protein powder is best??

[cursor]

How would you like to pay substantially less than that?

http://www.discussfitness.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19497

[sirrus]

This looks like a good deal to me from NutraBiotics--I'm thinking about ordering a bag.

"Huge 50 Pound Sack - 22,727 Grams.
Factory Fresh & Sealed. Pure USA Made USDA Whey Protein"

$179.99/free shipping. That puts it at about 14 cents per serving (25 gram serving). That's my kind of price.

http://www.nutrabio.com/Products/whey_protein50.htm

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[Todd]

I currently use VP2 Whey Protein Isolate, by AST Sports Science. I find it to be a very high quality protein that I can rely on. I scoop equals 24 grams of protein isolate, and it tastes awesome.

[arbit]

Originally Posted by sirrus

This looks like a good deal to me from NutraBiotics--I'm thinking about ordering a bag.

"Huge 50 Pound Sack - 22,727 Grams.
Factory Fresh & Sealed. Pure USA Made USDA Whey Protein"

$179.99/free shipping. That puts it at about 14 cents per serving (25 gram serving). That's my kind of price.

http://www.nutrabio.com/Products/whey_protein50.htm

Hey thats pretty good. Can also order the 33lb bag, the price diff is minimal:
for 50lb: 3.6$/lb
for 33lb: 3.625$/lb

[arbit]

Aaah, blackstar labs is selling 50lbs for 145+13=158$, much better
3.16$/lb.
50lbs.....I'm itching to buy the bag

[bigian79]

I think 100% Whey Protein has to be the best out there. 22g of protein for only 110 calories and 2.5 carbs is great for somebody trying to gain muscles mass while watching their weight.

[DexMan]

I absolutely hate the whole protein supplement topic because everyone gets mis-lead and people always take it anyways

"Athletes and active people who want bigger muscles should know that whey protein does not increase muscle mass. To build bigger muscles, they need to eat food with adequate energy and protein to support the weight-training work that does increase muscle mass. Those who still think they need more whey protein, should pour a glass of milk; one cup provides 1.5 grams of whey..."

"Protein powders can supply amino acids to the body, but nature's protein sources - lean meat, milk, and legumes - supply all these amino acids and more. Because the body builds mucles protein from amino acids, many athletes take proten powders with the false hope of stimulating muscle growth"

--- Example Meal ---

4 oz of lean beef = 35 Grams of Protein
1 Baked Potato = 5 Grams of Protein
1 cup of 2% Milk = 8 Grams of Protein
1 slice of wheat bread = 2 Grams of Protein
--------------------- Total Protein = 50 Grams

And that is just in one meal with that little of an amount!!!! Supplements are for those people that think they need it when they really don't... because if they really worked, then why are there still fat people??? Think about it???

[dsade]

That's AMAZING!!!

Now...just prepare that meal 5 or 6 times a day and you are SET!!! Why didn't I think of that. Nothing like spending 6 hours a day cooking.

If you are quoting something (like a scientific study), then be sure to cite your source. If not, then please provide scientific support as well. Protein supplement are a proven source of whole, complete proteins - this has been shown countless times.

It is simply not feasible to eat that much whole food sometimes.

[DexMan]

The sad thing is that a 200 lbs person only needs only about 81 grams of protein a day if they're fairly active.... LOL!

And all that information was right from my textbook, my notes, my professor, and other people I've talked to about that : I understand that some people need it, but not everyone needs it...

[dsade]

Yeah...good old RDA based on a sedentary lifestyle.

You can look around you and see the results of that.

[DexMan]

lol... that's funny do you even know how to calculate your protein intake or your carb, protein, fat percentage based on total calorie intake or any other nutrition information ?? What certifications do you have?

[dsade]

Originally Posted by DexMan

lol... that's funny do you even know how to calculate your protein intake or your carb, protein, fat percentage based on total calorie intake or any other nutrition information ?? What certifications do you have?

What are you babbling about?

I base my protein intake on knowing how my own body reacts. Anything less than a gram per pound and I start losing muscle mass. To seriously gain, I usually take in 1.25-1.5 grams per pound.

Let me guess, you have a certificate in FDA bull****ology?

[dsade]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=2745350

J Appl Physiol. 1989 Jun;66(6):2850-6. Related Articles, Links


Dietary protein requirements and body protein metabolism in endurance-trained men.

Meredith CN, Zackin MJ, Frontera WR, Evans WJ.

Physiology Laboratory, US Department of Agriculture Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging, Tufts University, Boston, Massachusetts 02111.

The effects of regular submaximal exercise on dietary protein requirements, whole body protein turnover, and urinary 3-methylhistidine were determined in six young (26.8 +/- 1.2 yr) and six middle-aged (52.0 +/- 1.9 yr) endurance-trained men. They consumed 0.6, 0.9, or 1.2 g.kg-1.day-1 of high-quality protein over three separate 10-day periods, while maintaining training and constant body weight. Nitrogen measurements in diet, urine, and stool and estimated sweat and miscellaneous nitrogen losses showed that they were all in negative nitrogen balance at a protein intake of 0.6 g.kg-1.day-1. The estimated protein requirement was 0.94 +/- 0.05 g.kg-1.day-1 for the 12 men, with no effect of age. Whole body protein turnover, using [15N]glycine as a tracer, and 3-methylhistidine excretion were not different in the two groups, despite lower physical activity of the middle-aged men. Protein intake affected whole body protein flux and synthesis but not 3-methylhistidine excretion. These data show that habitual endurance exercise was associated with dietary protein needs greater than the current Recommended Dietary Allowance of 0.8 g.kg-1.day-1. However, whole body protein turnover and 3-methylhistidine excretion were not different from values reported for sedentary men.

PMID: 2745350 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Keep in mind that this is with an endurance trained athlete. A resistance training athlete would conceivably require more.

[dsade]

another interesting study comparing Whey protein to red meat:

Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2003;12 Suppl:S42. Related Articles, Links


The effects of dietary protein on rat growth, body composition and insulin sensitivity.

Belobrajdic D, McIntosh G, Owens J.

University of Adelaide, School of Molecular and Biomedical Sciences,Discipline of Physiology, Adelaide, SA 5000.

Background - Recent literature suggests that a high protein diet may reduce body weight and improve insulin sensitivity in people with insulin resistance, non-insulin dependant diabetes mellitus and obesity. The impact of protein type in a high protein diet on body weight, composition and insulin sensitivity has not been investigated. Objective - To determine whether a high protein diet (32%) containing whey protein will reduce body weight and fat depots and improve insulin sensitivity to a greater extent than red meat in Wistar rats made insulin resistant by a high fat diet. Design - Mature (9wk old) Wistar rats were fed a high fat diet (30%w/w) for nine weeks to induce insulin resistance. Rats were then randomly allocated to a diet containing either 8 or 32% protein as whey protein concentrate or red meat (barbequed kangaroo muscle meat), for 6 weeks. At autopsy, blood was collected to measure plasma glucose, triglyceride, free fatty acids and insulin concentration. Liver and fat pads were removed and weighed. Outcomes - The high density protein diets reduced energy intake by 19% (P<0.001) and visceral and subcutaneous fat depots by 23 and 26% respectively (P<0.001). The 32% whey protein fed animals lost 10% more weight than 32% red meat fed animals (P<0.01). Whey protein fed rats had reduced fasting plasma insulin concentration (P<0.05) and plasma insulin/glucose ratio (P<0.05). Conclusions - The high protein diet was effective in reducing energy intake and body fat depots. Whey protein (32%) diet was more effective than red meat in improving insulin sensitivity and reducing body weight gain.

PMID: 15023655 [PubMed - in process]