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Old 10-Jul-04, 04:09 PM   #196
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true, but nitro tech works far better than whey
The main difference between Nitro Tech and Whey is that the Nitro Tech has creatine inside, that's why you might notice a difference. Before Muscle Tech will hide this in the ingredients, but now you can see it on the Nutritional Facts.

The first type of Whey in Nitro Tech is Whey Concentrate (which has an 80% absorption), then Whey Isolate (which has 90%). Since the Concentrate comes in first on the ingredients, it means that more of it is inside, then Isolate.
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Old 11-Jul-04, 09:26 AM   #197
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it has less than 2g of creatine...which wont help that much.....its all the other ingredients and research
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Old 13-Jul-04, 01:36 PM   #198
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it has less than 2g of creatine...which wont help that much.....its all the other ingredients and research
Thats not research, it's called Great Marketing!

NitroTech 2lbs (907g)

Out of the 907 grams powder.....68% (620g) is whey protein (mainlly Whey Concentrate)...

Lets say you get 1.5grams of creatine a scoop, you probably will drink 2 scoops or more a day, which will give you 3 grams of creatine. If you drink Nitro-Tech and any other whey protein, you should notice more of a muscle building effect with Nitro-Tech, again is not because of the Whey protein but because of the added creatine.
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Old 13-Jul-04, 02:56 PM   #199
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My wife and I have recently switched to whey isolate from www.allthewhey.com. At some point here in the very near future, I'll be doing a full write up on our experiences with it.
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Old 14-Jul-04, 06:28 AM   #200
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Solid Whey--Allsportsnutrition.com. $17 for 5 lbs. 10 lbs. for like $32. VERY good protein.
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Old 14-Jul-04, 06:51 PM   #201
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Solid Whey--Allsportsnutrition.com. $17 for 5 lbs. 10 lbs. for like $32. VERY good protein.
69% protein for choclate flavour.
And 10lbs is 39$ shipped.

vitaminshoppe is having 100% optimum 5lbs shipped for 21.4$.
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Old 15-Jul-04, 09:36 AM   #202
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69% protein for choclate flavour.
And 10lbs is 39$ shipped.

vitaminshoppe is having 100% optimum 5lbs shipped for 21.4$.
69% is too low.
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Old 15-Jul-04, 01:50 PM   #203
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Say, trHawT, note that there are added sugars in that protein.

Solid Whey Vanilla 10 lb. - Solid22
Nutritional Information
Serving Size 31.9 grams
Servings per Container: 71

Calories: 128
-Calories from Fat: 18
Total Fat: 2 g
-Saturated Fat: 1 g
Cholesterol: 45 mg
Sodium: 40 mg
Potassium: 185 mg
Total Carbohydrates: 5.5 g
-Dietary Fiber: 0 g
-Sugars: 2 g
Protein: 22 g

With 142 servings per container (31.9 grams per serving), there are 3124 grams of protein per 10-lbs container. At $32.99 (+5.95 shipping=$38.94), that equals $0.0125 (1.25ΒΆ) per gram.

On the surface it may appear that you're getting a better deal than the protein that I use (www.allthewhey.com) costing $37.99. Why would anyone seemingly pay ($5.00) more?!
  1. Lower in carbs/sugars and fat
  2. SAME price per gram of protein :
Let me explain.
  1. With allthewhey.com protein:
    __22 grams protein
    __02 grams carbohydrate
    __01 gram of fat
    __With only 2 grams of lactose, it's pretty fabulous stuff.
    Compare that against allsportsnutrition.com protein:
    __22 grams protein
    __06 grams carbohydrate
    __02 gram of fat
  2. With 160 servings per container (28.4 grams per serving), there are 3520 grams of protein per 10-lbs container. At $37.99 (+5.95 shipping=$43.94), that equals the SAME $0.0125 (1.25ΒΆ) per gram.
Better stuff ... same price.

You could also do what I do ... buy the whey isolate! It's better stuff yet!
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Old 15-Jul-04, 02:03 PM   #204
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Note, ON beats both cursor and trHawT

ON 100% vanilla/strawberry:
80 servings
22g protein/serving
cost /g = 2140/80x22=1.22 cents
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What's your source (please provide a link, thanks) & shipping price?
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Optimun 100% Whey Protein is not really 100%, its just a name... It contains about 78% whey protein which is not bad....

Solid Whey Vanilla 10 lb. contains 70% Whey protein...
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What's your source (please provide a link, thanks) & shipping price?
http://www.discussfitness.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23054

Here's a coupon which can be used in their physical stores

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Old 18-Jul-04, 07:02 PM   #208
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You may want to go to www.proteincustomizer.com or www.trueprotein.com and you can design your own for much less. For instance can add hydrolosate and a pure high grade whey isolate. I like a 77/23 blend for post workout. It is not advisable to add much more hydrolosate, the taste gets pretty nasty. They have great micellar proteins, etc. also and great nightime blends. Much less than you will pay for a ready made brand. They also have creatine, aminos, etc. You may do yourself a favor by checking them out.
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You may want to go to www.proteincustomizer.com or www.trueprotein.com and you can design your own for much less. For instance can add hydrolosate and a pure high grade whey isolate. I like a 77/23 blend for post workout. It is not advisable to add much more hydrolosate, the taste gets pretty nasty. They have great micellar proteins, etc. also and great nightime blends. Much less than you will pay for a ready made brand. They also have creatine, aminos, etc. You may do yourself a favor by checking them out.
Can you please give a link or an example of what you would advise, along with the "much lower" price? I'm not doubting what you're saying, the websites are just a bit confusing. You can get ON whey for less than $5/lb, and I hadn't seen anything cheaper than that on the sites.

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Old 21-Jul-04, 01:33 AM   #210
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trueprotein sells WPC for 4$/lb, proteinfactory sells it for 4.25$/lb +shipping

Yeah-unless u'r buying in bulk, ON is not all that much costlier
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