What protein powder is best??

[cursor]

You might try dropping OptimumNutrition.com an email and ask them that same question.

[Climber18]

today I went to Wal-Mart and got 2lbs of Body Fortress Chocolate Whey. It was about $12, and there was no shipping, so I think it was a pretty good deal.
It is 110 Cal, 2.5g fat, 3g carb, and 19g protein per serving, with 32 servings per 2lb container.
Just because its cheap and came from Wal-Mart, does that mean its bad?

[Gearloose]

I just bought a container of Body Fortress Vanilla Whey. Previously, I had been using EAS Soy Protein. After reading about Whey and it's supposed superiority over Soy, I decided to give it a try. I tried it for the first time last night in my post-workout shake ( one cup skim milk, one banana & a scoop of protein mixed in a blender.) I liked the taste of the EAS Soy better. I added a half-teaspoon of vanilla to the shake to improve the flavor, and will try adding some Splenda to the next one.

I did note on the ingredients list that Body Fortress Whey is a blend of Whey Concentrate and Whey Isolate. The concentrate is listed first, so one must assume it is predominent. A 28 gram serving has 20 grams protein. That's 20/28 or just over 71% protein. It is low on sugars with only one gram/serving.

Gearloose

Followup note: I added a half teaspoon of pure vanilla extract and a couple of tablespoons of Splenda to my post-workout shake tonight....100% improvement in flavor! I also added a cup of ice cubes to the blender so the shake really chilled down. I let it blend on high until the ice was completely blended into the shake. Texture was about like a smoothie. I was able to sit down and actually enjoy the shake without having to gulp it down fast to get it over with. The extra vanilla and Splenda really jazzed up the flavor without packing in unwanted calories or refined sugars.

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by Climber18

Just because its cheap and came from Wal-Mart, does that mean its bad?

Ill give you 2 guesses

[Gearloose]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

Ill give you 2 guesses

What about it makes you suggest it is bad? :confused:

More expensive is not necessarily a guarantee of a better product and inexpensive does not always equal crap quality.

Caveat Emptor...

Gearloose

[cursor]

Body Fortress Chocolate Whey
one 28 gram serving
19.0 – Protein
03.0 – Carbohydrate
02.5 – Fat (1 gram saturated)
24.5 = Sum ... Where are the other 3.5 grams?
source

From a single 28 gram scoop of this product, only 19 grams are protein (the rest is crap). That's only 68%. 32 servings (608 grams of protein) for $12.00 means that you're paying $0.02 per gram.

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[Gearloose]

Probably the other ingredients making up the blend that have no official nutritional value or are inert.

The Body Fortress Vanilla is slightly better with 20 gr protein per 28 gr serving.

I note that prices at Allthewhey.com have recently increased, and ON is more expensive too. For me, the convenience of purchasing locally is a strong factor in my decision. In addition to calculating shipping in the cost per gram on product ordered online, one must also realize that credit card use is not free.

I'll be in Joplin, Mo. this evening and will check out what the local Sam's Club has to offer. There are a few health food stores locally too, but from what I've seen there are no bargains there.

[pmcgough]

optimum 100% whey is the best

[Climber18]

Originally Posted by cursor

Body Fortress Chocolate Whey
one 28 gram serving
19.0 – Protein
03.0 – Carbohydrate
02.5 – Fat (1 gram saturated)
24.5 = Sum ... Where are the other 3.5 grams?
source

From a single 28 gram scoop of this product, only 19 grams are protein (the rest is crap). That's only 68%. 32 servings (608 grams of protein) for $12.00 means that you're paying $0.02 per gram.

In your other comparisons, where prices were $0.011 or $0.015, you were also assuming that the purchase was of a 10lb or other such large-quantity package. Im not currently using it fast enough to warrant purchasing such a large quantity. It wouls just take up space. One reason I like this Body Fortress is because it has all the flavor already in it. when I ate All The Whey, I mixed it in 16 oz of milk and mixed in a chocolate dairy shake flavor packet: Alba: 70Cal, 6p, 12C, 0f. Becuase i didnt like the Flavor or ATW by itself.
My milk/alba/all the whey shakes ended up being (16oz) 350 Cal, and 46g of protein.
my body fortress/milk shakes ended up being (8oz)
200Cal, and 27g of protein.
Very close:
milk/atw= 53.7g of protein per 400cal serving,
vs milk/BF= 54g of protein per 400cal serving.
but body fortress is easier to mix, and more fun to drink.
Thats just my shpiel. Next time maybe Ill try Optimum Nutrition, if they have a whey protein that is already flavored.

[.V.]

Originally Posted by Climber18

today I went to Wal-Mart and got 2lbs of Body Fortress Chocolate Whey. It was about $12, and there was no shipping, so I think it was a pretty good deal.
It is 110 Cal, 2.5g fat, 3g carb, and 19g protein per serving, with 32 servings per 2lb container.
Just because its cheap and came from Wal-Mart, does that mean its bad?

Don't know, I've used it and liked it. I prefer Designer Whey because it mixes easier though.

Right now I'm using Weider brand mass gainer. It tastes really bad. I just started it today though, I don't know if it is any good or not.

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by pmcgough

optimum 100% whey is the best

lets refrain from false, blanketed statements like that.

[abear]

Ingestion of casein and whey proteins result in muscle anabolism after resistance exercise.

Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2004 Dec;36(12):2073-81.

Tipton KD, Elliott TA, Cree MG, Wolf SE, Sanford AP, Wolfe RR.

PURPOSE:: Determination of the anabolic response to exercise and nutrition is important for individuals who may benefit from increased muscle mass. Intake of free amino acids after resistance exercise stimulates net muscle protein synthesis. The response of muscle protein balance to intact protein ingestion after exercise has not been studied. This study was designed to examine the acute response of muscle protein balance to ingestion of two different intact proteins after resistance exercise. METHODS:: Healthy volunteers were randomly assigned to one of three groups. Each group consumed one of three drinks: placebo (PL; N = 7), 20 g of casein (CS; N = 7), or whey proteins (WH; N = 9). Volunteers consumed the drink 1 h after the conclusion of a leg extension exercise bout. Leucine and phenylalanine concentrations were measured in femoral arteriovenous samples to determine balance across the leg. RESULTS:: Arterial amino acid concentrations were elevated by protein ingestion, but the pattern of appearance was different for CS and WH. Net amino acid balance switched from negative to positive after ingestion of both proteins. Peak leucine net balance over time was greater for WH (347 +/- 50 nmol.min.100 mL leg) than CS (133 +/- 45 nmol.min.100 mL leg), but peak phenylalanine balance was similar for CS and WH. Ingestion of both CS and WH stimulated a significantly larger net phenylalanine uptake after resistance exercise, compared with the PL (PL -5 +/- 15 mg, CS 84 +/- 10 mg, WH 62 +/- 18 mg). Amino acid uptake relative to amount ingested was similar for both CS and WH ( approximately 10-15%). CONCLUSIONS:: Acute ingestion of both WH and CS after exercise resulted in similar increases in muscle protein net balance, resulting in net muscle protein synthesis despite different patterns of blood amino acid responses.

[abear]

Effect of a hypocaloric diet, increased protein intake and resistance training on lean mass gains and fat mass loss in overweight police officers.

Ann Nutr Metab. 2000;44(1):21-9

Demling RH, DeSanti L.

We compare the effects of a moderate hypocaloric, high-protein diet and resistance training, using two different protein supplements, versus hypocaloric diet alone on body compositional changes in overweight police officers. A randomized, prospective 12-week study was performed comparing the changes in body composition produced by three different treatment modalities in three study groups. One group (n = 10) was placed on a nonlipogenic, hypocaloric diet alone (80% of predicted needs). A second group (n = 14) was placed on the hypocaloric diet plus resistance exercise plus a high-protein intake (1.5 g/kg/day) using a casein protein hydrolysate. In the third group (n = 14) treatment was identical to the second, except for the use of a whey protein hydrolysate. We found that weight loss was approximately 2.5 kg in all three groups. Mean percent body fat with diet alone decreased from a baseline of 27 +/- 1.8 to 25 +/- 1.3% at 12 weeks. With diet, exercise and casein the decrease was from 26 +/- 1.7 to 18 +/- 1.1% (8% decrease) and with diet, exercise and whey protein the decrease was from 27 +/- 1.6 to 23 +/- 1.3% (4% decrease). The mean fat loss was 2. 5 +/- 0.6 (placebo), 7.0 +/- 2.1 (casein) and 4.2 +/- 0.9 kg (whey) in the three groups, respectively. Lean mass gains in the three groups did not change for diet alone, versus gains of 4 +/- 1.4 and 2 +/- 0.7 kg in the casein and whey groups, respectively. Mean increase in strength for chest, shoulder and legs was 59 +/- 9% for casein and 29 +/- 9% for whey, a significant group difference. This significant difference in body composition and strength is likely due to improved nitrogen retention and overall anticatabolic effects caused by the peptide components of the casein hydrolysate.

findings by john berardi

The milk protein/casein group lost almost 6.5 lbs. (3kg) more fat and gained nearly 4.5lbs (2kg) more muscle than the whey only group. In addition, the milk protein/casein group had a 31% improvement over the whey only group in muscle strength.

[Shawny Boy]

I use jarrow whey, which has nothing artificial. I find alot of the proteins that has artifical stuff make me feel lousy. I buy it from www.healthatyourdoorstep.com

[ghoniba]

Is anyone concerned with the ingredients in these protein powders? I see the use of artificial sweetners which appear to be fairly toxic. Any thoughts on that?

Not trying to promote anything here, but read an article on these powders that are all natural: http://jayrobb.com/wheyprotpowv2.html

They use Stevia as a sweetner.

Glenn