whats your opinion? is this cheating to get results?

**tigz** · 15-Jan-05, 03:36 PM

ok..

I just wanted to see what was your opinion on the topic..

do you feel it is cheating to use Creatine, or Testosterone Boosters (like T-bomb), or Nitric Oxide products (like N02), and for leaning (Thermogenics, like stacker, hydroxycut etc..) ??

If NO it isnt cheating, please tell me why you believe this??

Also I wanted to know if anyone that takes these is at all concerned with potential side effects for throwing your body out of balance with these fabricated products?

pmcgough · 15-Jan-05, 05:43 PM

it isnt cheating, its just being smart...why not have an advantage if you can?

Lee J B · 15-Jan-05, 06:01 PM

Cheating is a funny word, your certainly not 'cheating' by the very defenition of the word if you don't compete or use the products to give you an unfair advantage in competition. Although some might say your cheating yourself, I would disagree with this though.....as has been said, knowledge is power and if you know how to use these products then the question begs, why not?

**Gooseneck** · 15-Jan-05, 07:49 PM

Most testosterone boosters only utilize the free or floating testosterone which then gives secondary effects such as acne and unwanted hair growth. Not worth it for muscular gains.
Creatine is great, safe and effective for giving your body that edge in the gym. Creatine alone does not produce or induce muscle mass however, which is misleading to many novices.
Nitric Oxide products are a complete waste of money. All they do is give you a "perpetual pump" which is not worth the 50-60 bucks a month or whatever it is.
Thermogenics are good, but they have to be used in conjunction with a proper diet or all you're gonna get is the shakes.

DustinLati · 16-Jan-05, 04:31 PM

its not cheating. Unless its against some written rules somewhere, nothing is cheating.

I dont believe steroids are cheating either, unless, like Lee J B said, you are competing as a "natural" bodybuilder or "natural" sports figure where steroids arent allowed. If someone wants to use steroids for aesthetic purposes, and they know what they are doing, then why not? It may not be legal, but its not cheating...your giving yourself the ultimate advantage.

You want to supply your body with everything it needs to grow...in which case, would eating chicken breast and brown rice and veggies be cheating? Sure, you would see better results with eating those types of meals than if you didnt eat anything, but its not cheating.

abear · 18-Jan-05, 02:55 PM

only really worthwhile in that list is creatine and i'd worry more about stuff like trans fatty acids, fast food, high fructose corn syrup and the term enriched than i would about creatine.

kexing · 19-Jan-05, 05:13 PM

no its not cheating, but you are cheating yourself if you use hydroxycut.

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thermorexin
pure EC
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kexing · 19-Jan-05, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abear

i'd worry more about stuff like trans fatty acids, fast food, high fructose corn syrup and the term enriched

those are the "baddies"

TsiTalon · 21-Jan-05, 07:34 AM

Do you honestly care? Dude what you will. Even if you are competing with others i dont even find creatine to be cheating. Now if you wee in sports and shooting the juice that would be a different story.

Maxgain · 27-Jan-05, 04:52 PM

NO cheating thats like going into your spanish exams and using french notes, useless!

Maclane · 12-Feb-05, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooseneck

Most testosterone boosters only utilize the free or floating testosterone which then gives secondary effects such as acne and unwanted hair growth. Not worth it for muscular gains.
Creatine is great, safe and effective for giving your body that edge in the gym. Creatine alone does not produce or induce muscle mass however, which is misleading to many novices.
Nitric Oxide products are a complete waste of money. All they do is give you a "perpetual pump" which is not worth the 50-60 bucks a month or whatever it is.
Thermogenics are good, but they have to be used in conjunction with a proper diet or all you're gonna get is the shakes.

I quite agree that NO is a hugh scam and a complete waste of money. I disagree about Test boosters though, they increase levels of testosterone in the body by significant quatities, test is directly related to strength and muscle growth. Plus when you take them you only need 5 mins rest after sex and your ready to go again

**Gooseneck** · 12-Feb-05, 09:27 PM

Test boosters are good for a variety of things, but it's not enough to enhance muscle mass by any measurable degree. Steroids for example are at least 400-500 % more effecient than what the body can naturally produce. I'm not saying that it is useless, but people are misled as to what Test boosters can really do.