Whey Protein - no effect any more?

[Fo'Shizzle]

I was at 78 kg and started taking whey protein. In first month gained 2 kg, but then I stopped gaining. I'm eating 5 meals/day, tuna, chicken etc. but cant get any bigger.
I'm taking 30g of whey in the morning and 30g post-workout, and doing this for about 5 months. Training 5 times per week. Cardio maybe once a week.
Only effect that I can see is that I gained some fat arround my waist and that is definitely NOT GOOD.
Should I stop using whey for few months and see what happens, because I'm more and more looking chubby but scale isn't showing any improvement?
P.S. Scale isn't broken :

[abear]

IMO, you have problems with either your diet or your training. its probably not just because of the whey

whats your diet look like?

[Fo'Shizzle]

It looks like this
10h: protein shake (30g whey, 2 spoons of honey, 1 banana) + turkey sandwich(es)
13h: big meal*
15: smaller meal*
17h: some fruit (mostly 2 bananas/apples)
19h: turkey sandwich(es) - that is my pre-workout meal
WORKOUT
POW - 30g whey + water
22h: big bowl of cornflakes/oat meal

Known problems:
TURKEY SANDWICHES: I think this is worst part of my "diet", it's made with turkey salami (100g=16g prots, 16 fat , 5g carbs), please suggest something else to eat before workout!
VEGETABLES: Just hate them, eating veggies rarely(3 times per week max). suggestions?

BTW, I'm a skinny guy by nature, had only 65 kg last summer. I was taking "weight gainer" (4900 KJ per taking), went to 78 kg, but had problems with liver 'cuz of that so I stopped. Whey didn't uppset my liver or kidneys.

Training is good, it's "by the book" so I don't think I have any problems there. I'm doing my cardiovascular activities maybe 1 per week (playing soccer) so that shouldn't be problem.

*(it isn't same during week but it includes tuna, turkey, chicken etc.)

Sorry for any grammar mistakes! :

[GymRat18]

looks to me like you eat a LOT of carbs too late in the day some simple carbs (sugars) about 40-60g is all you need postworkout and then don't eat anymore b4 bed... try sticking to protein couple scoops of peanut butter, (fiber) 2-3 hours after workout time preferably b4 bed so your muscles won't starve at night) also clarify what your big meals and small meals are if they like cheeseburgers from mcdonalds then theres your problem they need to be low fat, low glycemic carb foods, .... also one of your problems is the turkey sandwhich deal.... i mean 16g of fat ouch...

and finally.... NO vegetables tsk tsk tsk how you gonna stay lean without quality carbs ... lots of fruit = lots of sugar = fat around stomach... vegetables (especially low glycemic) have fiber which slows digestion and do NOT raise your insulin like fruits...

Although this is vague its just a brief description of what I see wrong good luck!

[Fo'Shizzle]

OK. Thnx 4 your help! :

[cursor]

Originally Posted by Fo'Shizzle

In first month gained 2 kg, but then I stopped gaining ... Only effect that I can see is that I gained some fat arround my waist and that is definitely NOT GOOD.

Creatine will only help you with that slight amount of explosive energy required to move a bit more weight. If you're not lifting after that style (where explosive energy is necessary), then creatine is doing nothing for you. If you've gained noticeable fat around your waist, then my guess is that most of your weight increase has been in terms of fat (vs. lean body mass). Your weight gain is probably attributable to the meal structure that you've posted and/or your style of weightlifting. My advice would be to hone your meal plan a bit (quite a bit ) so that the nutrition you feed your body is supplied when your body can properly use it.

Slimming Down
Workout Timing and Diet Tactics
Workout day vs nonWorkout day

Good luck! :

[Fo'Shizzle]

I've never used Creatin but I'm planning to, maybe it'll give me needed boost.
I'll do my best to change my "diet".

[pmcgough]

get rid of the turkey...eat tuna without mayo..it's cheap, very low fat, and very high protein...100-150 calories yields about 30g protein

[Fo'Shizzle]

One more thing guys...
After seeing all this, I'm seriously considering starting my creatine.
My medical history - I had kidney sand(?) not stones year ago, before I started using gainers/whey protein, it i hereditary thing. So should I start it?
I went to my doc he said everything is fine now.

I'm drinking 2.5 litres of water per day always, sometimes it goes to 3.5 litr.
Should I drink more or it is ok?

Should I skip loading phase and take 5 g POW cuz of my med. history?

Thank you in advance. :