Whos taken PH and thoughts on them?

[dave]

Good FAQ on PHs, just wondering tho who has actually taken them and what they've got from them, obviously depending what was taken.Been working out for about 8/9 years (26 now)Never touched them myself, only ever taken creatine, but was always weary about the side affects of PHs, you know hair loss and sht.

[EazyE26]

I think they work depending on which ones you use, your dosage, and your delivery system. These are some of the most important factors regarding prohormones. I am in kind of the same boat that you are in. I'm 27, been lifting for 8 years and just recently came off my first real prohormone cycle. I gained 10 lbs, and this was only a 3 week cycle. From this experience, I learned a: 1-testosterone and 1-AD are some of the best otc phs available, b: these are best stacked with 4-AD to offset certain sexual side effects and lethargy (aka limp dick), c: this stack works best in a transdermal form that should be applied every 12 hours (I used Trenabol-X by Higher Power but there are several good ones), d: the correct dosage for me was 300 mg. of 1-test and 400-500 mg. of 4 AD a day total, but everybody is different. e: always follow your cycle with some high-grade tribulus and 6 OXO. Both of these can be purchased otc. Hope this helped.

[dsade]

Great response Easy.

[Streax]

1Test/4AD homebrew with DMSO... IS the best way to go at this point. I unfortunately will probably not do another cycle though because the benefit / risk trade off isnot high enough for me. I experienced hair loss, gyno agitation, swolen prostate from a moderate dose 4 week cycle. There have been more and more posts of people with side effects the past couple months on this board, which has a very low percentage of prohormone/steroid users.

I will not do another PH cycle, and next time will go with the real deal. Probably a Test-prop / Tren cycle... same amount of money 3 times the gains, less risk of side effects.

[MrAnderson]

The best 1-Test product I ever used was Super One + transdermal. It was a mixture of 1-Test and 4AD. I got very nice gains with no noticable sides. The libido was a little low, but that's about it. The 4AD helps you retain a little water which is good for the joints and strength gains when on this stack.

I've also use Boldione from Molecular Nutrition. I usually do just a little 21 day cycle to get some strength gains.

Ergopharms 1-Ad is a good 1-test product. Most people feel lethargic when taking 1-AD so it's kind of hard to get motivated, but I've had good results with it.