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Old 04-Nov-03, 05:29 PM   #1
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Winny for Fat Loss


I am 6' 220 w/ 12% bodyfat. I have been eating clean and right. I can't seem to get below 12%. Thus, the Winny. As I am NOT looking for size, what would be a good daily dose? I read that 25mg would be good for 6-8 weeks? Also, I have used Phentermine to loose a few extra pounds. Should I stop that during the Winny or can they be used together? What about creatine? Are there any other supplements I shoul use in conjunction? Lastly, I do copious amounts of cardio? Continue this or lay off during the cycle? My experience is 15 years hard lifting and I am a former College football and track member so I am not a newbie to fitness and supplementation.
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Old 04-Nov-03, 07:04 PM   #2
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Winstrol will not aid in the loss of fat. It will make you hard, that's about it. 25mgs per day is a little light but it will do the trick for making you harder. It will probably inspire you to work a bit harder in the gym too. Your strength will go up about 10% maybe 15%. Protect your liver too.

The best way to get below 12% is diet, not drugs...
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Old 04-Nov-03, 07:12 PM   #3
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if u just wanna lose fat why not just go with something like clen or ephedra
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Old 04-Nov-03, 07:44 PM   #4
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Yea fat loss is more about diet bro..... but if your gonna add in the juice regardless of what we say winny/tren will give you a nice look if your diet is on. same results if you substitute winny for var..... i would forget everything i have said if you have never done a cycle before.
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Old 04-Nov-03, 11:56 PM   #5
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what are they side effects of Winstrol?
i am 20
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Old 05-Nov-03, 02:42 AM   #6
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If you want to lose fat dont go with winny, simply because you dont have to. Go with anavar & primo, they are easily by far the most effective combo for fat loss.
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Old 05-Nov-03, 09:03 AM   #7
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Oral winny will do very little for you. If you want to look into a cutting cycle then start researching these drugs:

Test Propionate
EQ
Primobolan
Anavar
Winstrol Depot (Stanazol)
Clenbuterol
ECA
T3

As Rico said, losing fat is all about diet and cardio, none of the above will work unless these are adequate.

The use of AAS can dramatically reduce the amount of lean muscle mass lost during a cycle, but the fat is all up to you.

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Old 05-Nov-03, 01:49 PM   #8
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legit primo is very hard to find.. bros that have been in the game for years still loose money to fake primo even with a good source -unless u have a trusted source that u have dealt with a bunch of times u should probably try something else -if i were i would stack winny with clen, or anavar with clen if u can afford it
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Old 05-Nov-03, 02:16 PM   #9
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personally i think winny would be great to add to a diet and exercise regime. :thumbup: if the diet and workout isn't in place then forget about the winny
i would start out at 50mgs a day and decrease the dosage if the joints start hurting to bad.
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Old 05-Nov-03, 02:30 PM   #10
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i would start out at 50mgs a day and decrease the dosage if the joints start hurting to bad.

More then likely at 50mg per day he will notice joint discomfort.

Hey Zed,are you seroius about mixing clen with winn? Ana and winn for sure but clen is really messes with the body more then I thought it would.
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Old 05-Nov-03, 06:10 PM   #11
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Correctly dosed anavar is just as hard to find as primo.

Be Lucky.
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Orals are too hard on the liver he may as well just do a Test Prop/Winny Depot cycle.

50mg ED or 100mg EOD injects.

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Orals are too hard on the liver he may as well just do a Test Prop/Winny Depot cycle.

50mg ED or 100mg EOD injects.

Jock

The prob here is that inject are a mother to find and when you do they end up being Wesson oil. Orals are way easy to get but again you don't know it they are real or not until like week 4 or 5.
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The prob here is that inject are a mother to find and when you do they end up being Wesson oil. Orals are way easy to get but again you don't know it they are real or not until like week 4 or 5.

What kind of orals are you talking about???
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Old 06-Nov-03, 03:56 PM   #15
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Injectables are the some of the easiest to find, many wont take the time to fake test and such like as it's easy to tell and generally not worth it.....with injectables like primo as has been said though, there is a lot of money in it for them.. and so they will always try to fake them. You shouldn't have a problem finding what Jock recommended.
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