Winstrol

[WCUfballer]

side effects of winstrol? if there is a safer "drug" or supplement to "cut up" then what is it??

Common sides: Acne; enlarging penis; increased frequency of erections; unnatural hair growth, enlargement of breasts or breast soreness; frequent or continuing erections; frequent urge to urinate, chills; diarrhea; feeling of abdominal or stomach fullness; muscle cramps; trouble in sleeping
Less common: Bone pain; nausea or vomiting; sore tongue; swelling of feet or lower legs; unusual bleeding; unusual weight gain
Rare (with long term use): Abdominal or stomach pain; feeling of discomfort (continuing); headache (continuing); hives; loss of appetite (continuing); unexplained weight loss; unpleasant breath odor (continuing)
And one last warning: Tumors of the liver, liver cancer, or peliosis hepatis, a form of liver disease, have occurred during long-term, high-dose therapy with anabolic steroids. Although these effects are rare, they can be very serious and may cause death. Discuss these possible effects with your doctor.

Sign me up for a cycle or two!!!

Most of those sides are manageable/non-existent with proper use.

[WCUfballer]

i see that this might not be a good thing to do...so what are some good alternatives?

How much do you need to lose? Products containing 7 keto dhea (like AbSolved, Lean System 7, or 7-keto MuscLean from Beverly) all work well as an aid to fat loss.

[Lee J B]

WCUfballer, you have to remember that most of the time if used properly, you won't get many of those sides...winstrol is one of the safer drugs around.

[WCUfballer]

to both of you guys, i am 5'10", 185lbs. down to 12% bf and i am very very strong in that i can bench 335 for 5 reps, and can hang clean about 295 for 4 reps all at the age of 21, which is most impressive amongst my peers in the gym. I am a bulky 185, and even if i have to lose a little strength to do so, i want to get shredded up and will do nearly whatever it takes to do so. I like both points of view that you both have presented here for me. I would like both of you if you have time to elaborate a little more on both legal substances and also illegal like winnie and clen ect...so that i might be able to make a good decision here. Thanks again to whover can give me more knowledge on these two topics.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by IronMan

Common sides: Acne; enlarging penis; increased frequency of erections; unnatural hair growth, enlargement of breasts or breast soreness; .........................

you've put him off Winstrol for life.

Hey baller, it's not so bad...just take care

[Lee J B]

Well if you just want to get cut, there's not much point in doing a cycle in my opinion....some people do cutting cycles, but they understand that they are primarily training and injecting to gain mass, and being cut is just another benefit of the drug, 'cutting' cycles are a waste of a cycle in my opinion, if your on cycle, your on to gain as much mass as possible.....generally speaking, the illegal supplements such as clen will get you further than the legal ones, but you can easily do what you want to achieve with diet. Maybe do a search for Lean System 7 on this site, it's quite a good product and is legal.

Not trying to put him off guys, but I would like to see him do some more serious research on roids if he is going to use them.

Originally Posted by WCUfballer

i want to get shredded up and will do nearly whatever it takes to do so.

Diet, diet, diet. That is the main way to get shredded. It takes self control to eat clean during your waking hours, but the dividends are worth the trouble.

Winny will help you maintain mass and strength while dieting, but if you are willing to lose a bit of strength then you would be better off cutting naturally.

Just remember that most people who use an aid like clen to lose fat generally put it back on, because their diet wasn't what it should have been to begin with!

[Bronco]

[quote=IronMan]Common sides: enlarging penis QUOTE]

And just think about all those poor people that go for the surgical solution....

[WCUfballer]

haha....good call bronco....I appreciate the advice fellas and look forward to hearing from you all again if there is anything else you want to add. This will not be my first time using roids, although i have never used anything to cut i have cycled anadrol 50, sustanon 250, testosterone cypionate, d-bol and refrovit-B. I have also tampered with Deca 300 here and there along with test enanthate which proved to be the weakest of them all. I have been around a lot of these types of juice, but have never encounterd winnie or clen ect...and believe it or not i have never even talked with anyone who has taken these things so i am really just lookin to see what some of you say about these kinds of juice. The advice about the lean system 7 seems like it might be something for me to consider as well so thanks for that door that has now been opened for me. How hard is it to find Winnie and get the real thing and not some bogus crap????

You need to know your source. Good source = good product.

[Lee J B]

Massive BUMP to Ironman's advice....when you find a source, take care of him...they love cash. Winny isn't often faked as far as I know, but some of the less well known brands are faked by means of exactly how much they have in them...British Dragon have had lab tests on all their products and also are a professional company, nuff said.

[GM NOV8D]

currently, i'm an amateur surfer in southern california, and i've been thinking about going through one cycle of winstrol just to get a little more size, get a little more lean, a little more big, and just get my body in better overall shape for surfing....

is there anything i should look out for when im on the cycle, and do you guys have any reccomended workouts to do while i'm on the cycle, and what i should do after the cycle?

thanks in advance guys, very much appreciated.

-gus.

[GymRat18]

Iron man, maybe you should have cut out enlargement of the penis because at least 50 people will now be ordering a bottle tommorow lol