580 deadlift, 530 squat, 380 bench by 07

[arbit]

What are "MAMA, REFR, SLP" ?
You are correct in that if markets were truly correct then stock prices would not fluctuate. BUT, EMH may also be viewed as saying that its impossible for a person to beat avg returns as all data is incorporated into the price. So stock prices are fluctuating, but its impossible for a person to predict where they will be headed. There's a saying "the market can be irrational longer than you can stay solvent".
Anyhoo I'm just beginning. How did u get into the trading thing ? Any books u recommend ?

FI's new address is:
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[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by DaRkAnGel

Yea I'm going to post my workouts here for a while until the old place goes back up.

I know I'm getting stronger, but this is just my personality (every aspect of life). I appreciate the compliments tho... I get none from my training partners haha. No joke, I only get ****. But it does motivate me. My numbers will be solid when I get some world records. 2 state records down... time to shoot for the stars.

Donn't you dare settle. IF i see you say your numbers are 'good' or 'solid' again i'm gonna chew you out. That's when people stop making progress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm watching you . lol

You are capable of great things. You're young and you got along ways to go.

I'm sure your workout partners don't want you saying that sh*t either lol

[DaRkAnGel]

Originally Posted by arbit

What are "MAMA, REFR, SLP" ?
You are correct in that if markets were truly correct then stock prices would not fluctuate. BUT, EMH may also be viewed as saying that its impossible for a person to beat avg returns as all data is incorporated into the price. So stock prices are fluctuating, but its impossible for a person to predict where they will be headed. There's a saying "the market can be irrational longer than you can stay solvent".
Anyhoo I'm just beginning. How did u get into the trading thing ? Any books u recommend ?

FI's new address is:
Fortified Iron (Powered by Invision Power Board)

Take my opinion with a grain of salt. Only about 30% (I believe) of traders are successful over long periods of time.

Those that are, however, beat the market by a very wide margin. The thing is, it's not a random walk down a part, but IT IS HARD. Trading makes you compete against the best and the brightest. If you walk into trading with the mentality that you will succeed very easily, your money will be taken from you very fast.

Now, if you don't have time to be a trader, but still want to beat average market returns... there are ways to do that. You can be a longer term investor and still use technical analysis to help you determine a good entry into a stock that minimizes risk.

I would recomend William O Neil's how to make money in stocks. Pretty old book, but the stock market doesn't change much. The "bible" of technical analysis is still a book by Magee written in the 1920's.

EMH is absoluetely rediculous theory tho in my opinion. Sounds like some disgruntled academians lost their money in the stock market and of course (because they must be smarter than everyone else) if they can't succeed, neither can anyone else.

MAMA, etc. are ticker symbols that I'm mentioning to you showing you exactly how innefficient the market is. Look those up.

The thing I always find funny is that after I play a breakout, pullback, etc. (trading executions) there is always news that floats up relating to how something changed about the company. It's really entertaining to see how dearly people WANT explanations for every fluctuation in the stock market.

[DaRkAnGel]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Donn't you dare settle. IF i see you say your numbers are 'good' or 'solid' again i'm gonna chew you out. That's when people stop making progress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm watching you . lol

You are capable of great things. You're young and you got along ways to go.

I'm sure your workout partners don't want you saying that sh*t either lol

Thanks man. I actually don't really have that much confidence in my numbers. I always want more. I think (and know) that my squat absolutely sucks. I should be benching more (at least shirted). I feel confident in my deadlift.. every session I pretty much know I'm going to get a pr if I bust my balls, but that's probably because it's my favorite lift.

All I need to do is blast my posterior chain. I have neglected certain muscles for way too long.

[DaRkAnGel]

Had 9 beers yesterday after not drinking in almost 3 months... went into the workout with a stomach ache(stomach doesn't tolerate alcohol very well because i drink like 3-4 times a year).

Conventional Deadlift: 135 x 5, 225 x 3, 315 x 2, 375 x 2, 405 x 1, 455 x 2, 500 x 3 (hooooooge pr). 1 left in the tank, too.

Glute Ham Raises: x 8, x 7, x 6

Clean High Pulls: 225 x 2 x 8

Seated DB cleans: 30's x 14

KB Swings: 70 lbs x 14

Pullthroughs: 11 stack x 14

Decline Situps(90 degrees): x 12

Russian Decline Twists: 10 x 12-14?

Glad this week is over. Need to get my school work together, go to the chiropractor and fix up my back, and need to relax in general. Made it through the week tho.

[arbit]

Dark I got the impression that u dont actually research the companies, rather u look at the stock price history and base u'r decision on that; is that correct ?

[DaRkAnGel]

Correct. I know people more successful than me at trading that don't bother to look at any fundamentals of a company besides total shares floating, insider ownership, and institutional ownership.

Futures is a game that is pure technical analysis. Except, in the futures market only the best of the best compete. This is why I am sticking to equities for now. Either way tho, i've purchased/sold many positions without ever knowing what a company does.

Fundamental analysis is great... but a good company with a crappy chart doesn't make you money. Find a good chart, and if it's also a great company, you increase the probability of being right. But, if you're wrong, you're still wrong and you never argue with the market.

Some things I look for... stocks making new 52 week highs, trading above 20,50,100 Day moving averages, low float, good volume for liquidity purposes, etc.

Have a small position in a company right now... RATE. If it breaks 45 dollars I am adding more to my position. If it drops to 41.50 I'm out. This is with my real account. I also do a lot of paper trading when things get too hectic and I know I can't make great decisions/manage my money properly.

[WolBarret]

Originally Posted by DaRkAnGel

Correct. I know people more successful than me at trading that don't bother to look at any fundamentals of a company besides total shares floating, insider ownership, and institutional ownership.

Futures is a game that is pure technical analysis. Except, in the futures market only the best of the best compete. This is why I am sticking to equities for now. Either way tho, i've purchased/sold many positions without ever knowing what a company does.

Fundamental analysis is great... but a good company with a crappy chart doesn't make you money. Find a good chart, and if it's also a great company, you increase the probability of being right. But, if you're wrong, you're still wrong and you never argue with the market.

Some things I look for... stocks making new 52 week highs, trading above 20,50,100 Day moving averages, low float, good volume for liquidity purposes, etc.

Have a small position in a company right now... RATE. If it breaks 45 dollars I am adding more to my position. If it drops to 41.50 I'm out. This is with my real account. I also do a lot of paper trading when things get too hectic and I know I can't make great decisions/manage my money properly.

What the hell is this? Since when did "Discuss Fitness" become "Discuss Fundamental Analysis".

Get your mind right!! We're here to talk about weights, NOT trading and shares.

[arbit]

Originally Posted by WolBarret

What the hell is this? Since when did "Discuss Fitness" become "Discuss Fundamental Analysis".

Get your mind right!! We're here to talk about weights, NOT trading and shares.

We're here to talk about fitness, including mental fitness, and ways to ensure being fit, which includes being financially well off, and finances are an important part of that :

[gcs118]

I'll just ignore the finance talk for now and say nice DL PR man.

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by DaRkAnGel

Thanks man. I actually don't really have that much confidence in my numbers. I always want more. I think (and know) that my squat absolutely sucks. I should be benching more (at least shirted). I feel confident in my deadlift.. every session I pretty much know I'm going to get a pr if I bust my balls, but that's probably because it's my favorite lift.

All I need to do is blast my posterior chain. I have neglected certain muscles for way too long.

I feel the same way about the lifts, except for the PR part. I feel like I've not even started lifting yet...all but 4 months the last 3-4 years I have actually eaten to grow...so as you can imagine it's pretty boring lol.

Being a powerlifter, never can have too strong a Posterior chain.

[WolBarret]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

I feel the same way about the lifts, except for the PR part. I feel like I've not even started lifting yet...all but 4 months the last 3-4 years I have actually eaten to grow...so as you can imagine it's pretty boring lol.

Being a powerlifter, never can have too strong a Posterior chain.

I think I have ADD and it gets worse at night time. So:

Keep training, lift heavy, lift fast, use proper form, protein to the max, and don't do anything Clint Eastwood wouldn't do.

[DaRkAnGel]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

I feel the same way about the lifts, except for the PR part. I feel like I've not even started lifting yet...all but 4 months the last 3-4 years I have actually eaten to grow...so as you can imagine it's pretty boring lol.

Being a powerlifter, never can have too strong a Posterior chain.

Yea man... dieting sucks. I'm glad that though my metabolism isn't ultra high I'm simply unable to get beyond 240. Even when all I did was eat nonstop and not workout(junior summer), heaviest i've ever been was 242.

At 230... I'm not really going anywhere. I have too much mass to drop to 198 and not lose SOME muscle. I am planning on staying around this level and simply building more mass.

[Firehawk]

I hear ya. I want to stay around 240-250, but in reality ill probably stay 250-260. My body is seriously fighting me right now. I'm trying just as hard as ever and the last 3 weeks i've only been dropping 1/2 a lb each week. That's healthy, but too slow for me.

And with my binging problems on my cheat days, it forces me to keep my calories lower during the days of the week than otherwise. If i didn't binge, i could probably eat 2800-3000 and drop 2 lbs a week. Can't break the habit lol.

Sorry to hijack ur training journal.

[DaRkAnGel]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

I hear ya. I want to stay around 240-250, but in reality ill probably stay 250-260. My body is seriously fighting me right now. I'm trying just as hard as ever and the last 3 weeks i've only been dropping 1/2 a lb each week. That's healthy, but too slow for me.

And with my binging problems on my cheat days, it forces me to keep my calories lower during the days of the week than otherwise. If i didn't binge, i could probably eat 2800-3000 and drop 2 lbs a week. Can't break the habit lol.

Sorry to hijack ur training journal.

It's cool man. I've been through all that. I was once 242 and the same height I am now 5'10 and with much less muscle. Dieting sucks... only reason why I no longer do it .