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02-Jun-05, 07:32 PM
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#856
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No, not really the shouders don't give me much trouble. As far as being overtrained, I don't think I even come close - more likely undertrained. Remember I'm fighting a disease that is trying to weaken and cripple me and my training is what helps me beat it. Sometimes - being 36 y/o after I lift something really heavy, like way heavier than anything I lift in the gym - I'll feel a bit of pain in the anterior of the left rotator cuff. This is pretty rare though. The CDL and the Upright row are both real world lifts that I do every day (except I don't row to my chin at work, just to about the solar plexus area). They range anywhere from 10lb to sometimes over 300lb. They are often done in awkward positions with improper form. I don't get to pick the odd situations that people find themselves in which I have to get them out of. I'm not going to be doing any of that though until at least tuesday, maybe longer. Well, one painful lift scheduled for tomorrow evening. I will be helping my brother and my cousin lift a tombstone into position - it is the biggest, nicest one we could afford. I suppose being marble, it will be pretty heavy. This will not be considered a workout, just a sad part of life.
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I will train with you. I will fight for you if you cant. I will die to save another. But I will bleed only for Kimberly.
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02-Jun-05, 07:40 PM
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#857
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PowerLifter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Detroit Barbell - Michigan
Age: 30
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Well you konw your body best yo. Just don't push it too hard  (no pun intended).
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"Strength Gains are the Key to Muscle Growth".
"You will miss some and you will make some but what happens with these sets WILL determine your future strength."
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02-Jun-05, 07:44 PM
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#858
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Just trying to make a bit of improvement each time out. Would prefer big improvements each time out, but take what I can get. Don't we all? If it was easy and big improvements came each time, we would all be squatting 1000+ and look like Ronnie Coleman. Well, I would be a very pale version since I don't tan out as well as he does.
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I will train with you. I will fight for you if you cant. I will die to save another. But I will bleed only for Kimberly.
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02-Jun-05, 07:46 PM
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#859
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PowerLifter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Detroit Barbell - Michigan
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Big is a relative term my friend. Guys benching 500 have big improvements when they get 465 for 2 reps instead of 1  .
For me a big improvement is increasing 10 lbs on my bench and still getting 3 reps like i got last time with 10 lbs less on the bar  .
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"Strength Gains are the Key to Muscle Growth".
"You will miss some and you will make some but what happens with these sets WILL determine your future strength."
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03-Jun-05, 07:32 AM
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#860
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
I have a ways to go before I'll be strong enough to even consider powerlifting though.
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this statement is.....well...I don't know what to call it, but it ain't like that, I'll bet money that if you trained a powerlifting style now for 1-year solid you'd be throwing around heavier weights in the bodybuilding stlye probailiy faster too, just because you hear the word "powerlifting" dosen't mean you need to be strong, it's about gettin strong.
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03-Jun-05, 08:38 AM
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#861
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lancaster, PA
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I'm with Luke and Dave on this one. I'm a 177-pound guy with two years' lifting under his belt and I'm basically powerlifting -- 3-rep bench, 3-rep squat, 4-rep DL. My hope is that PL routines will get me stronger more quickly.
Less is more when the more is as much as you can stand. LOL.
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03-Jun-05, 08:45 AM
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#862
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BTW, Andy you are strong, I'll say it's about getting stronger!!!!
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03-Jun-05, 10:44 AM
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#863
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Originally Posted by Firehawk
Are you ready to drop the bodybuilding stuff for awhile and come over to the dark side (powerlifting)?  Come onnnnnnn...it'll be fun....
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darkside??? you ain't on the darkside yet until you start using "gear"
I'll still love ya, I know you'll make the right use out of it.
hey bodybuilding ain't no lightside either man.....but, just a "six-pack".
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03-Jun-05, 07:04 PM
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#864
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I see what you guys are saying. When I stop making progress with Max OT, I'll probably gravitate in that direction. I'm not likely to move the other way to the high rep, high volume stuff. I got no results from that in the past. Sometimes a few extra reps to get past a sticking point but that's about it.
I don't expect to make any progress this week though, It's just too bad of a week and the least of my concerns. But then, there's always next week.
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03-Jun-05, 07:05 PM
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#865
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PowerLifter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Detroit Barbell - Michigan
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I dont get many results from high reps either.
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"Strength Gains are the Key to Muscle Growth".
"You will miss some and you will make some but what happens with these sets WILL determine your future strength."
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10-Jun-05, 03:03 PM
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#866
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06-10-2005
No workout since 6-2. I was not able to eat for a whole week. I tried to force some meals, but ended up tossing them. I got a couple of workouts on the 1st and 2nd. After that, I just lost all motivation. By saturday, I realized I was completely dehydrated - I did try to eat saturday night, but no go. I was able to eat a bit by monday and have been eating a bit more each day so that I can hopefully undo the damage done by skipping meals and workouts. Today has been a better day, almost able to eat normally. Got in two protein shakes too. Spending some time outside catching up on the yard work I'm 2 weeks behind in and taking my kids to the lake this evening. After that, we are all going to catch up on the housework we are also two weeks behind in. I work tomorrow and if it isn't one of those 48 hour shifts from hell I should be able to finish catching up on my nutrition and be able to workout again by Sunday. I'm sure I've lost ground again but so be it. I'll get it back over time.
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I will train with you. I will fight for you if you cant. I will die to save another. But I will bleed only for Kimberly.
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10-Jun-05, 03:45 PM
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Location: Sacramento, California
Age: 53
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Hope you feel better. Nothing like a little time out to give the body a rest. I'm sure you'll come roaring back.
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10-Jun-05, 10:18 PM
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Thanks perinni. It wasn't actually a time out or some planned time off - I did that a few weeks back. Just some bad things happened, and the whole family was pretty devistated, myself included. It was hard to focus on working out or even remember to eat. Then if I did remember, I hurled it. Well, bad things do happen - we just have to live with them the best way we can. Then move on with life and make it better. I think I've eaten enough in the last couple of days to recover the nutritional damage I did by not eating. I'll find out on Sunday.
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I will train with you. I will fight for you if you cant. I will die to save another. But I will bleed only for Kimberly.
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11-Jun-05, 01:15 AM
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Sorry to hear about your bad news Andy. Things will get back to normal soon I hope. If you need time off for emotional, physical or whatever reasons, take it off. Lifting just isn't more important than healing other scars. Anyway, hope your return is astounding! Best of luck to you and your family.
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12-Jun-05, 12:35 PM
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#870
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06-12-2005
Back
CDL................250x3x4
BOR................160x3x4
BW PU.....17,10,8,8,6,4=53
Cardio - will likely get rained out. I will do something inside tonight.
Diet - Some changes are in order. I'm still going to work on bulking, but all the carbs are absolutely killing my digestive system. I just can't take it anymore. I will not shun them completely. I will continue to eat my morning oatmeal, drink my PWO glucose. There will be some carbs in my PWO protein shakes too - I make them with skim milk. The rest are going to come from broccoli, asparagus, califlower, salads, my old high fiber foods that I've performed well on before. If I want a sandwich, it will be on the higher fiber, controlled carbohydrate, whole wheat bread. Potatoes, pasta, dried beans, and such will be much more limited.
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Today's workout was pretty good considering the time I've had since my last back day. Turned 36 last back day. Had one of those attacks that left some weakness to work through. My sister was killed may 30. I couldn't to eat for almost a whole week after that - what I did eat, I chucked. I tried to work out anyway. When on the 2nd, arm day - I got the the same point in my standing alternating dumbell curls that I was at last time she came to visit it hit me that I would never see her again. The last time was during my dumbell curls. Of course we visited for an hour or so after that, but I'll always have the memory of doing those curls and seeing that cute little face stick into the door of my gym and hearing her say, "quit that damn growling". By Saturday, I was dehydrated and malnourished. I spent the next week forcing food, drink, and trying to recover from that. Went back to work and ended up spending a 48 hour non-stop-busy shift from hell. No rest there.
I guess all things considered, today's workout was pretty good. I feel pretty well worked in spite of the strength loss. I will get it all back, it will just take time. Tomorrow is chest/abs day - I'm actually looking forward to that.
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