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Old 06-Nov-07, 10:46 AM   #1
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Hi all
OK, so this is it as it stands today.
Equipment Time Level Sets Reps
Crosstrainer 5 mins 5
Leglifts 3 10
incline chest press 42kg 3 6
seated row 44.5kg 3 6
shoulder press 35kg 3 6
seated leg curl 59.5kg 3 6
leg extension 63kg 3 6
wall squats (swissball + db) 5kg 3 10
Bike 20 mins 10
recumbent bike 5 mins 5

= legs like jello

What dya reckon? Given I need to lose a whole heap of weight, how does that look as a workout?
Thanks v much
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Old 06-Nov-07, 07:46 PM   #2
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Hey Mate,

First off, well done getting yourself started on the way to good health and obscene fitness (if you choose to push it that far ). Starting a training journal here was probably the second best thing you did after that; gives us all the opportunity to offer suggestions and share the challenges and success with you.

Good on ya!

Here's some thoughts I have on the program you've outlined; overall not bad, but could be improved in the following ways (all this according to me; more competent advice to follow I'm sure).

Reduce the predominance of machines - they're not inherently bad or anything but you'll achieve more with a freeweight routine.

Focus less on isolation movements (exercises that work specific, smaller muscles i.e. leg extension/curl) replace them with compound movements (exercises which work numerous large muscle groups i.e. Squat and Deadlift).

Cardio after your weights session is a great idea - keep that up.

Here's what I think a good routine might look like, it works the whole body as a unit and might be best performed 2-3 times a week (depending on how heavy you go and how you recover).

10min warmup (light cardio - might I suggest the rower, great full body warmup IMO, emphasis on light)

Squat 3x10 (Wall squats are an OK substitute if freeweight squatting is not an option just yet) (demo)

Deadlift 3x10 (demo)

Bent Over Row 3x10 (demo)

You could also add 3 sets of Military Press or Bench Press if you want some extra work.

Remember to start light with all these exercises (particularly if they are unfamiliar movements to you).

Cardio, 20 mins as you've been doing looks good, once you can manage 20 mins fairly easily it might be time to think about interval training.

If weight loss is your goal diet becomes a crucial factor, it will be very helpful to log your food intake each day (FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal) and record your caloric breakdown here (i.e. calories consumed including a breakdown of Carbohydrate, Fat and Protein - don't panic, fitday will tell you this you just gotta tell it what you ate ).

Hope this wasn't too much for one post, fire away if you got questions - I'll stop by regularly and look forward to seeing your progress.

Have at it!
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Old 07-Nov-07, 01:06 PM   #3
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Wow! Thanks for all that!

Today I went to the gym to do just cardio stuff, no weights. As I'm just getting into this I didn't go mad. I hadn't used a rower before so asked for instruction on how to use it. I did 20 mins, keeping an average of 21 strokes per minute and a split time (?) of about 2.12.
It made me sweat and pushed up my heart rate quite a bit, but nowhere near as much as the bike!
I found that my lower back ached a bit during it, so I guess those muscles aren't used to that kind of a workout, and I wouldn't be surprised if my technique sucks!

I wonder how long I should do the rowing for, ideally?

Please would someone explain what interval training is?!

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Old 07-Nov-07, 07:46 PM   #4
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...Today I went to the gym to do just cardio stuff, no weights. As I'm just getting into this I didn't go mad. I hadn't used a rower before so asked for instruction on how to use it. I did 20 mins, keeping an average of 21 strokes per minute and a split time (?) of about 2.12...
Good call taking it easy to start, it's always best to work ones way slowly into these sorts of things (unfamiliar movements or new levels of physical exertion).

Your 'split' was likely your 500m time (i.e. how long it took you, on average, to row each 500m) 2.12 is not a bad first effort (quite good actually), particularly since you managed to keep that pace for 20 mins.

If you are concerned about the lack of elevated heart rate on the rower might I suggest pushing one 500m effort under 2-2.05? I guarantee it'll hurt . Easy does it of course but it sounds like you are capable of pushing things a tad.

I'm a newbie to the indoor rowing scene myself so I'll point you to the concept 2 website for instruction on proper technique.

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I wonder how long I should do the rowing for, ideally?
As a warmup - 10 mins at a light intensity will be plenty!

As a stand alone workout I guess as long as you can handle really but there's probably not much point going over 20mins to half an hour (if you can do that I'd say up the intensity).

I know the first time I tried to row a sub 1.50 500m that's all I needed for the day, I was absolutely stuffed (yup I exercised for exactly 1 minute and 45 seconds that day - warmup/down not included - and I was done). It's all about intensity relative to personal fitness (but having improved myself since that last effort I'd say I'd need 2 or 3 sets of 1.45 500m rows to feel as beat as I did that day). Do you see what I'm getting at?

I'll defer of course to the wisdom of experienced rowers here (or point you to the concept 2 forums) if you need/want more info.

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Please would someone explain what interval training is?!
Simply put Interval Training is thrashing yourself for a short time, resting for a bit and then repeating the whole operation a few times.

examples might be;

Sprints - sprint 400m, rest 2 mins; repeat 4 times (distance, rest and repetitions are up to you, rest less for a more gnarly workout, rest more if you cannot complete the assigned work).

Bike - pedal at a high cadence/resistance for 1minute, rest, repeat.

Swim - 1 lap flat out, rest, repeat.

Getting the idea?

It is largely irrelevant what exercises you choose as long as it gets you working very hard. Try and complete at least 3 intervals (repetitions) and not more than 5 or 6 (if you can do 6 x 400m at full tilt you're an official beast). Try not to rest more than twice the time you work for (i.e. if a 400m run takes you 2minutes be sure you are not resting more than 4 minutes before your next round if possible - to start with don't worry too much about this though).

Hope this was a bit helpful mate
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Old 07-Nov-07, 11:15 PM   #5
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wow the first time you rowed you maintained a 2:12 split for 20 minutes? i hate you

seriously though my best 500m to date was something like 2:16 and I don't think i have ever rowed for 20 minutes straight!

keep up the good work.

I agree that intervals are a good idea, and to move away from the machines as soon as you feel comfortable. It is hard to measure your progress on machines. Say you switched gyms at some stage, or you want to compare your strength to that of others on the internet. Machines vary from gym to gym, but an olympic bar weighs 45lbs wherever you are... and that goes for weight plates too plus free weights are fun!

I hope you are not doing squats on the smith machine
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Old 08-Nov-07, 02:11 AM   #6
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If I knew what a smith machine was I'd definitely be doing squats on it, if for no other reason than I'd be well on the way to becoming an "official beast"

I did used to be reasonably fit, and I'm my own very worst critic, so I'll push myself scary hard! (Plus, the gym manager is pretty cute so I want to impress him )

My partner is a jaw droppingly handsome chap, and I need to feel that he's not embarrassed by having a mobile eclipse of a girlfriend! He's also 20 years younger than me...
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you got yourself a toyboy! lol

don't use the smith machine!
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Old 09-Nov-07, 07:30 AM   #8
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Oh dear
I went to the gym last night and I was shockingly rubbish. Managed all my warmup and weights stuff, and even managed to add some side planks in to my routine. Then came the bike, which was an out and out disaster. I couldn't get into the groove at all. My legs were shaking, I could barely turn the pedals. I turned the resistance down to see if that would help but no, I just couldn't do it. Did I struggle on? Did I grit my teeth and tell myself to get on with it? Did I draw my very last reserves to achieve my goal?

No. I gave up, went home, and lay on my bed in the dark!
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