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Old 03-Jun-03, 05:08 AM   #16
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Yep, benching more than your body weight is a good demonstration that your quite strong. I will get you a link to the routine, but it is really a whole different kind of training, you'd be training as a power lifter essentially.
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Old 03-Jun-03, 03:08 PM   #17
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No cramps today, I think it was something else. I love that breakfest because I feel so powerful once I eat it . I didn't have any chicken pitas made up so I had to eat myoplex for my second meal. Had pitas for my third, will have chicken sandwich for my fourth, and chicken crock for my fifth.

One concern, I was 148lbs this morning on the scale. Although I am obviously getting stronger, (IE lifting heavier weights!) I'm not packing on the pounds. Maybe my bodyfat is going lower, I'll check like every month. ( I don't see the point of doing it every day or every week. ) I'd like to be about 170ish so 20lbs of muscle to go.

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Old 03-Jun-03, 03:12 PM   #18
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Yes, normally starting a new diet if you keep to it, day in, day out you find you will gradually increase lean mass whilst losing fat - it happens on every diet, just some slower than others depending on what the diet is specified for. I'm gonna guess you have lost a couple pounds of fat and gained a couple pounds of muscle...your absoloutly right - do not measure everyday - maybe even not every week, it just demotivates people, in the first weeks go by lifts and mirrors. Glad to hear your cramps have gone, thought they might Keep it up bro, your headed for good things....
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Old 04-Jun-03, 09:52 AM   #19
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Meal 1 changes:
-Cutting 1 egg yolk
-Moving almonds to Meal 5

Now Meal 1 will only be 9 grams of fat. Since it's my pre-workout meal it will be better this way hopefully.

Just ate meal 1 and I feel sick and I want to throw up, I don't know why? I'll update later in the day.
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Old 04-Jun-03, 10:37 PM   #20
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Meal 2 was a sub because I ate out.
Meal 3 was 2 pieces of bread with protein mix (Didn't want to cook up a chicken breast and my protein powder has like the same nutritional value, is it ok to subsitute sometimes?)
Meal 4 was Meal 5. I toned down the chicken to 4oz instead of 10oz. I'll eat almonds at this meal too.

Tommorrow will make a week on the diet. I'll try to do some evaluating then, but maybe I should wait another week? According to massive eating plan, I should be taking in 3600 cals. It also says I need 2300 cals to just stay alive. Shouldn't I be dead by now then? Lee I'm trusting you bro for that cal per day number you gave me. We will see about adjusting it in a week. Agreed?
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Old 05-Jun-03, 02:30 AM   #21
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Yep see how it goes and adjust in a week, should be fine.
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Old 05-Jun-03, 10:29 PM   #22
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Diet was picture-perfect today. The only thing I did differently was that I subsituted protein powder for chicken breasts two times. They are almost identical in macronutrient values, is there a downside to doing this when I don't have time to cook a chicken breast?

Oh yea, ran out of v-8 juice so actually I lost about 70 cals. No biggie I don't think.
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Old 06-Jun-03, 05:54 AM   #23
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Nah you should be fine, good work......solid food is always better if you can though.
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Old 06-Jun-03, 11:35 AM   #24
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Ok, I was a little disappointed today. I got up, and weighed myself. Seems like I've dropped more weight. 147lbs . That is 2-3 lbs down since starting the diet. I got up and ate my breakfest as planned, except without v-8 because I ran out of it. I drove to pick up my friend and we went to the school gym, but it was closed. Luckly I have some weights at home so we went to hit up those. On Monday I was pushing 135lbs on bench without much problem. Today, I did it like three times. Anyways, heres how the routine went:

Chest:

Bench:
135lbs - 3x (set1)
95lbs - 12x (set2)
115lbs - 8x (set3)
135lbs - 2x (set4)

Incline:
95lbs - 5-8x
95lbs - 5-8x

Decline(First time doing decline):
95 lbs - 5x
65lbs - 10x

Triceps:

Tricep pressdown:
25lbs - 10x
25lbs - 10x
25lbs - 10x

Seated dumbell tricep curl:
25lbs - 10x
25lbs - 10x

Biceps:

Standing Curls with pully (Don't have an ez bar yet!)

25lbs - 10x
25lbs - 10x
25lbs - 7x

After that I immediately drank my PW shake while driving my friend home. 40 minutes later I ate Meal 3 (Chicken-stuffed pita) and drank about a pint of water. I ate 3 meals within 2 hours!

The only postive so far is that I look more cut in the mirror and my biceps look bigger. (Got a faint vain through it!)

This is Week 2, Day 1.

Week 1 all I did was 5x(1 set) @ 135 on bench, 5 sets of 5 on squats @ 156lb and 125lb max powerclean. (The whole football team was in the weight room )

Finish out the 2100 cals this week, and up next week if no improvement?
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Old 06-Jun-03, 12:00 PM   #25
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You are noticing improvements though, and because of the type of training - progressive resistence, your going to be adding muscle and just dropping the fat....try upping the cals next week if you think its anything to be worried about mate.
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Old 06-Jun-03, 12:29 PM   #26
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Progressive resistance as in upping the weight on every set right?

I was doing 5x5, then I was doing 3x5 with heavier weights. Now I'm going to try this for bench:

Set 1: 90 or 100 lbs 10-12x
Set 2: 110 lbs: 8x
Set 3: 120lbs : 5-6x or 4x
Set 4: 125-135: (high as can)

I need to get some 2 1/2s and some 5s for my weight set tho.
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Old 08-Jun-03, 10:48 AM   #27
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Yesterday I cheated on my last meal. I'm still craving cheat foods which means I'm not getting enough cals. I'll stick this out till thursday and then up. Oh yea, I was 151lbs on the scale today, must have been the pizza. I guess the good thing is since I'm trying to bulk and my bodyfat is like 8% without eating healthy one meal isn't a huge deal as long as I get right back on top of things, like I'm doing today. The only problem is I'm going to an 8 hour concert so I'm loading my first 2 meals within 1 1/2 hours to hopefully sustain me on good food for awhile.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 12:17 PM   #28
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I've decided that 2100 cals just doesn't cut it. Yesterday I ate everything I could find after my workout. The results? For the first time my chest is hard and its sore but for the first time I can flex it. How does that even work? I've been benching for like 6 months, but now all the sudden I wake up and I have muscle? Is it just swollen or something?

Oh yea the PW shake looked like 44p 80c approximately. (I drank a gatorade while driving home and then 2 scoops optimum whey and then some orange juice.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 12:19 PM   #29
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Well, not sure whats going on their, the muscle will be a sign of hardwork over a period of time not just because you ate everything in a night, it could look bigger if you replenished your glycogen stores to full....although my muscles normally dont look as big until they have fully healed from a workout.....
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Old 11-Jun-03, 02:25 PM   #30
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Yes I know but I've been working hard for 6 months was my point. I wasn't saying the muscle was a sign of eating more, but was a sign of the hard work finally paying off.
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