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Old 20-Nov-06, 09:53 PM   #556
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Helen is a good w-out, but like you, I added other exercises too because it just didn't seem like enough.

JDR3 calls me the "scuffler" when I run, so I have been working on picking up my knees which takes a lot of thinking. If I tried 7.9 on TM, I would be spit off the backend and the entire gym would be laughing at me. Great job!
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Old 21-Nov-06, 05:18 AM   #557
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good job on helen gymgirl, looks hard!

sucks about the quad tightness.

do u ice your knees every night after you run?
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Old 21-Nov-06, 12:25 PM   #558
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Hey Gymgirl - Nice job on Helen. I don't know how flexible the Crossfit exericses are, but could you rotate the pull-ups 2nd and move db swing last? I am sure if you did that, you would save more energy for the pull-ups.
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Old 21-Nov-06, 01:34 PM   #559
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"Helen"

Three rounds for time:
Run 400 meters
1 1/2 pood Kettlebell X 21 swings (subbed 20 pound dumbbell swing)
12 Pull-ups

time: 11:19

i felt pukie comin' after round 1.
food:

carbs: 207g 42%
protein: 145g 36%
fat: 40g 22%

total cals: 1678

EDIT: updated food for today. skipped the last 1/4 cup cous cous with my salad tonight.
I felt like puking just reading it . Impressive work.

I like your macronutrient ratios and your food intake. A wide variety of whole and unprocessed food types
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Old 21-Nov-06, 03:51 PM   #560
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lol no frills. that is really cute. i tend to drag my feet when i walk.

hey minime, i don't ice my knee after i run. i probably should but i put a hot water bottle on it at night. i rotate between my shoulder and knee. i do ice my knee in the morning though, and my upper thigh/quad area. are you icing your knee after running? do you find that it helps? ice seem to tighten my mucles more...i know that sounds werid!

hi laura. I try not to mess with the crossfit workouts too much. i think they are put together that way for a reason, and i'm trying to get all i can out of it. i agree though, switching those around would probably have made it easier. the thing is the pull-ups were not hard for me due to endurance but due to my back/shoulder pain. i had to take them slower and only could manage one set of 12 unbroken. so frusterating, in the past before my shoulder thing, pull-ups was where i would make up time on this workout!

and hiya, maxgain! thanks for stopping in. glad to see my food chocies aren't totaly awful!
p.s. my PM box should be clear now! sorry about that!
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Old 21-Nov-06, 04:49 PM   #561
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yes the stupid knee. i forgot to answer your question about my PT. when i described my pain to her she first thought it was cartilidge,like you said yours is. especially when i described how my knee feels week and feels like it to give out when i run or that dead leg feeling i get. after she examined it she said she didn't feel any weird cartiledge and said that from what she has observed my abductors are weak and then i am compensating which is putting strain on my IT band, then when my IT band tightens it pulls my knee into a weird allignment. she also thinks this has all stemmed from my minor back injury in june. she said that was like the straw that broke the camels back, and it just threw everything off. it's so frusterating not to be able to fix it! i've felt this werid tightness/pain on andoff for the past 3-4 years, i just ignored it and kept running, so now i am paying for it. i guess it was bound to catch up to me someday. like you said it's tough when you can't fix it, you can't keep working on it!
That was one of the problems with my knee. IT band was amazingly tight giving pain to side of the knee cap from the pulling from a tightening at the hip.
Have you had it losened out yet?
It was one of the most painful things i ever experienced but improvement was noticable after one session though took a few to realy loosen up.
I presume you have got the stretches for it and exercise to strengthen abductors. It should be much improved after a short period.
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Old 21-Nov-06, 09:36 PM   #562
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eeek. i am so sorry to hear that maxgain. i agree it was VERY painful. one day i could not walk, i had to crawl around my apt. hopping hurt because it moved the knee all over the place.

i'm starting to loosen up a lot more, but it was a good 3weeks to 1 month of tightness. my physio couldn't even touch my hip without me letting out a big yelp. like you, my tightness started quite high in my hip glute. she worked it out pretty well, and i still spend a lot of time with the foam roller. i do the generic IT band stretch where you lay on your side and pull your leg up behind you like a quad stretch and lay your opposite foot over your bent knee and press down. my physio also gave me side planks and side kicks to do for abductors, and my trainer gave me my most useful strengthening exercise yet. pierini called them double dog walks. you place two oly bars on the lower levels of the squat rack and walk over them in a position similar to hurdleing (sp?). that exercise alone has helped quite a bit. it's a long road, but i am finaly seeing some progress. now if i can fix this damn shoulder tendonitis! if you know of any other stretches or exercises that worked for you, i'm all ears! always like to learn and try something new!

november 21, 2006

had my trainer today and was running late, so he threw in a warm up for me.

warm-up:

turkish get-ups: 20lbs 1x12 (6 reps each side)

circuit warm-up x2: (very similar to CFWU, he changed a few exercises)

alternating power clean and hang clean: 45lbs 1x12 (second round did squat cleans)
overhead squat: 45lbs 1x12
sit-ups: 1x24
back extension: 1x24
30 sec. samson strech (each side)

workout:

Complete in twenty minutes as many rounds as you can of:
25 Squats
10 Strict pull-ups
10 Ring dips (subbed assisted bar dips with 35lbs assist)

9 rounds + 25 squats, 7 pull-ups.

1/2 way through we realised i should have been subbing 30 bar dips for the ring dips...ah oh well. strict pull-ups were bothering my shoulder a bit. only made the first 2 rounds unbroken. i'm still quite sore from yesterday, and need to spend some time rolling my shoulder blade on the tennis ball. tough workout. i saw the discussion yesterday regarding kipping vs strict pull-ups. i think kipping PU's have HELPED my strict PU. if it's helping, i can't really think of it as cheating...plus as many people pointed out, it's like comparing apples to oranges.

anyone familiar with trigger point therapy? i've been reading about it on the CF boards, but need to continue reading. sounds like it has helped a lot of people with shoulder issues. i've tried my own with a tennis ball and i think a professional might really do the trick.

food:

carbs: 176g 39%
protein: 143g 38%
fat: 40g 24%

total cals: 1567

for some reason haven't been as hungry as usual. been pretty tired and a bit off on my workouts.
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Old 22-Nov-06, 07:15 AM   #563
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i think that might be something to do with my knee issue too - he gave me knee lifts to strengthen adductors, and i do feel sometimes when i walk even that i have pain down my left outer thigh like it is being pulled.

I havent heard of the trigger point therapy, but will read up on it later.

you did good on the workout, and dont worry about the appetite - it will come back. It always does!
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Old 22-Nov-06, 11:09 AM   #564
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The best one i did was to lie on my side at the very edge of the bed and let the tight leg hang down (goes over the bottom leg) and allow it to stretch for 5 -10mins. ITs important not to go over this time as you will get a compensatory reaction instead with time i attached weights to my ankles and this increased the stretch. You should feel it in the glute and at the band towards the knee not the hips or groin area. I would use a rubifacient first to get blood flowing to the area on the stretch.

Others were to lie down one leg falt the other grab the knee pull to my shoulder. Once again feel in glute not groin.
Another was the pullover as you described. Rotating hips while lying flat and hamstring stretches were others.

I have bought a wobble board now to build up the stability muscles to help also.
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Old 22-Nov-06, 11:13 AM   #565
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thanks for those maxgain i am going to try them out too
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Old 22-Nov-06, 12:32 PM   #566
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thanks maxgain! i'll try the ones you suggested too. my knee was tightening up last night, i am assuming from the squats. my trainer had me squat down to a medicine ball..i think that did it for me. today my quads are super sore too which is tightening everything up. some good stretching is in order.

p.s. i think my appitite is back...i am so hungry and quite sore. i think today is going to be a ME day at the gym.
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Old 22-Nov-06, 04:40 PM   #567
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so i'm feeling somewhat ok now physicaly with the injuries, and am finally going to give tim's ME circuit a try. I'm hoping to do something similar 1-2x per week. I've spent the morning doing some research and have some up with a list of exercises I could possibly incorporate into this circuit. I'm thinking what i will need to do is take some benchmarks on the exercises i am not sure about and go from there. i'd like to follow tim's format starting at 80% of my PR and work up from there and then shoot for new PR's.

so here is a list of exercises i pulled of crossfit that i might want to incorporate.

bench press
clean & jerk
clean
deadlift
hang clean
hang power clean
hang power snatch
hang snatch
hang squat clean
overhead squat
power clean
power snatch
pull-up
push jerk
push press
snatch
squat
squat clean
sumo deadlift high pull

i still do not understand the difference between a hang power clean and hang clean. i've tried watching the videos on CF but i don't see a difference. maybe it is in the drive? from what i can understand the difference in the squat clean you drive less and catch in a low squat position under the bar, where as a power clean you drive a bit higher and don't squat, but more of a dip in the catch. is this wrong? yesterday apperently i was doing power cleans instead of squat cleans...i am so confused. what's the difference in clean and squat clean? are they the same thing or is 'clean' the general term for hang, power, squat cleans? too many terms i can't keep them all straight!

so if i do cleans in my circuit do i aim for hang power cleans, hang squat cleans, squat cleans, or power cleans? sorry so many questions.

i put together a few circuits, some of which i got from tim's journal and some that i just threw together. not sure if i am missing anything major or combining exercises incorrectly that would cause an overuse injury or something. a few ideas i had were:

OHS/clean and jerk/deadlift
squat/bench/power clean
squat/snatch/pull-up
deadlift/squat/bench
deadlift/bench/snatch
squat/pull-up/clean and jerk
OHS/bench press/pull-ups
OHS/deadlift/pull-up

any help, comments, suggestions...i'm all ears!
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wednesday, november 22, 2006

cardio: 2 mile light run at 6.5-6.7 which is like 8:56 min mile. knee was pretty tight from those ball squats yesterday. running did help loosen my quads up a bit.

stretching: stretched and foam rolled quads, glutes, hams and IT band. did some shoulder swings and shoulder warm-up

warm-up:

OHS: 45lbs 1x8
clean & jerk: 45lbs 1x5
deadlift: 45lbs 1x5


3x5 circuit: 80% of my PR (or atleast what i guessed my PR was)
OHS: 50lbs 5,5,5
clean & jerk: 50lbs 5,5,5
deadlift: 75lbs 5,5,5

i really liked this format. was challenging but not too tough. it was nice to mix it up, and i was not bored ****less and it also didn't feel like i was doing regular weight training. thanks tim for the idea...now i need to come up with a few more so i cover everything on these ME days.

food:

carbs: 200g 39%
protein: 165g 39%
fat: 43g 23%

total cals: 1777

dang so close to the perfect 40/40/20 split! :
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Old 22-Nov-06, 10:53 PM   #569
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Hi Gymgirl, you are right on the clean / power clean. The clean you catch as low as possible in the squat, meaning you don't pull the weight up as high and squat under it. Power clean you pull the weight up higher and with a small dip catch the weight. With good technique you should be able to clean more than power because you don't have to lift the weight as high and your legs are stronger. Of course this does not apply to me because of my technique!!!!!
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Old 23-Nov-06, 04:51 AM   #570
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good work gymgirl! 75lb deadlift way to go.. I am still terrified oft he deadlift

Oh, sorry to hijack your journal but i had a question for Maxgain - u said u had your IT band loosened out - did your psycho do this? I mean... physio ha ha.. seriously though i was thinking i could ask my physio about this next week.

gymgirl did u try the leg hanging off the bed stretch? its not very comfortable i kept feeling like i would fall on the floor lol
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