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19-Jan-05, 03:29 PM
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#391
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For me, the wide grip chin ups seem to work the lats better. I've noticed the same doing ring pull-ups where my palms are facing my ears.
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19-Jan-05, 06:57 PM
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#392
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Aren't reverse grip close grip chins...chin ups? As in palms facing me? I'd much rather do that than pull ups (pams facing away). I want to give my lats one hell of a workout, so which is better?
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19-Jan-05, 07:01 PM
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#393
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If you want to give your lats "one hell of a workout", then do the workout that I suggested a few posts ago.
A pull-up is palms away, a chin-up are palms facing. Thus, wide- grip chin-ups are palms away with as wide a grip as feels comfortable.
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19-Jan-05, 07:07 PM
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#394
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Originally Posted by pierini
Thus, wide-grip chin-ups are palms away with as wide a grip as feels comfortable.
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lol do you mean wide grip pull ups are palms away, or wide grip chins are palms facing  I hate wide grip though. I guess I'll have to be stubborn and keep doing regular or close grip  I might add in some chin ups because I prefer those over pull ups.
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19-Jan-05, 07:33 PM
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Wide grip si for building width on the lats. Closer grip is going to give you more thickness. I like the chinups bette rthan pullups too.
To answer a question you said earlier, I'd bet the pullups hit your lats harder because you are using more bicep with chins, BUT you are doing more weight, so it might cancel it out , know what i mean? 
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19-Jan-05, 08:19 PM
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#396
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This damn pull up/chin up and variety of grips is becoming a confusing ordeal lol.
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20-Jan-05, 05:30 PM
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CHEST, Thursday, January 20, 2005
Bench Press 12 x 45 lbs, 12 x 95 lbs, 12 x 135 lbs, 5 x 145 lbs
Incline Flyes 10 x 30 lbs, 10 x 35 lbs, 8 x 40 lbs
Decline Press 8 x 135 lbs, 6 x 155 lbs
Notes: I don't like hypertrophy. I can't wait to return to my normal low reps, heavy weight. I felt so weak today! Ugh. My arm hasn't hurt at all which is a good sign. I'm going to go heavy on legs (except SLDL because it uses my arm), so I'm looking forward to that day.
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20-Jan-05, 06:05 PM
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I'm sorry - I meant palms facing for the wide- grip chin-ups. Thanks for your attention to detail.
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22-Jan-05, 01:19 PM
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LEGS, Saturday, January 22, 2005
Squats 6 x 45 lbs, 6 x 135 lbs, 6 x 225 lbs, 4 x 260 lbs, 4 x 270 lbs, 2 x 280 lbs, 2 x 290 lbs
Seated Calf Raises 8 x 45 lbs, 8 x 55 lbs, 8 x 65 lbs, 8 x 75 lbs
SLDLs 6 x 135 lbs, 6 x 175 lbs, 6 x 185 lbs, 6 x 195 lbs
Notes: Squats went pretty well. The weight never felt heavy on my back, but I struggled with the 2nd rep at 290. Seated calf raises were pretty darn easy. SLDLs were easy as well. Good day.
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23-Jan-05, 12:57 PM
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SHOULDERS, Sunday, January 23, 2005
Military Press 12 x 45 lbs, 12 x 65 lbs, 8 x 75 lbs, 8 x 85 lbs
Dumbbell Side Laterals 8 x 10 lbs, 6 x 20 lbs, 8 x 15 lbs, 8 x 15 lbs
Barbell Shrugs 6 x 155 lbs (Front), 6 x 155 lbs (Rear), 6 x 155 lbs (Front), 6 x 155 lbs (Rear)
Notes: Skipped upright rows because they agitate my arm. Did pretty good today. Side laterals got easier as I went on, so I'll probably do more warm up sets next time.
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24-Jan-05, 10:34 AM
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Are you going back to upright rows after the arm is totally better? Or do you think they were the cause of the arm problem?
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24-Jan-05, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
Are you going back to upright rows after the arm is totally better? Or do you think they were the cause of the arm problem?
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I'll probably start them back up eventually. My arm was fine when I returned to heavy lifting until I hit GMs, upright rows, and anything bicep specific like curls. Otherwise it seemed to do OK, so I'm just cutting out the ones that really make it hurt again.
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24-Jan-05, 11:47 PM
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Took Arms day off again today. I want my arm to heal!!!!! Also can't do boxing the first half of the semester due to this stupid arm injury. Ugh!!!
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24-Jan-05, 11:58 PM
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You definitely want to let it heal. I learned that when I had the torn muscle. A little extra time off to let it heal makes a big difference.
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26-Jan-05, 01:56 PM
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BACK, Wednesday, January 26, 2005
Deadlifts 6 x 45 lbs, 6 x 135 lbs, 6 x 225 lbs, 4 x 305 lbs, 4 x 315 lbs, 2 x 325 lbs, 2 x 335 lbs
Pull Ups 6, 6, 6
Hanging Leg Raises BW x 8, BW+35 x 8, BW+35 x 8
Notes: DLs felt strong today. All the weight actually felt light until my set at 335, had trouble with last rep (just like on squats!). I didn't do my DB rows because I felt my bicep being kinda weird. It doesn't hurt, but I didn't want to aggravate it. Pull ups are starting to feel pretty strong
PS - It's been about 30 minutes and my wrist is still sore/red marks from the straps tugging lol. Oh joy!
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