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14-Oct-05, 01:36 PM
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I've heard some people say that glucosamine is good for joints, but I don't know much about it. I also read an article that states its physiologically more stressful on your knees to stop at parallel than it is to go rock bottom. I'll see if I can dig it up.
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14-Oct-05, 01:37 PM
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Greg, I was only kidding about going too deep. I only wish I could go deep like you guys without tipping over backwards. I use a box, not to help me get deep enough - it's my "crutch" to keep from tipping over.
I think if your form is good and the knees stay in the right position, squatting would likely be good for them by strengthening the muscles that support them.
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14-Oct-05, 01:37 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
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Location: Near Toronto, Ontario
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MSM, chondroitin/glucosamine, anti-inflammatory (devil claw root might help there), and building up the muscles around the joint, knee wraps.
knees is my new favourite subject of study.
btw: i squat as deep as i can go.
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Goals: bench - 200; squat - 225; deadlift - 225
27/01/06: bench - 170; squat - 195 (wrapped); deadlift - 210; total - 575; need - 617; to go - 42
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14-Oct-05, 02:32 PM
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My Dad was a big full-squat guy during his weightlifting days and got as high as 460 lbs. full squat. In those days, a full squat was past parallel, somewhere between parallel and @$$ to floor, definitely deeper than what you see nowadays.
Anyway, he's 79 years old and claims he is pain free, has good posture and strength which he attributes to all the squat work he did when he was a young man. You never know if parents are telling you the truth when they get that age, but I have more reason to believe he is truthful than not.
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14-Oct-05, 03:04 PM
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It's kinda funny you mention the posture thing with your father because since I've been squatting I've noticed my posture has been much better. I know you were kidding Andy about depth, but since I'm only 19 I'd like to keep my knees good for life lol. I've heard about glucosamine, but I guess for now it'd be best to keep at what I'm doing. I suppose the knees can keep up with my progress, for now anyways.
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14-Oct-05, 08:21 PM
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Glucosamine is what I give my 11 year old dog to help with his joints - and it definitely helps him, judging by how he limps around without it and how he runs with it.
When I squat, I go down until I can feel my hamstrings touch my calves. Is that what you mean by "@ss to floor"? Because I can't imagine LITERALLY going @ss to floor...
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14-Oct-05, 08:45 PM
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If your hams are touching your calves - it's deep enough.
About the glucosamine - most folks find that it gives about the same anti-inflammatory effect as motrin (ibuprofen). Hopefully without the kidney risk. Sadly, costs a bit more.
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16-Oct-05, 05:08 PM
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HEAVY BENCH, Sunday, October 16, 2005
Bench Press (Pinkies On Rings) 10 x 45 lbs, 6 x 95 lbs, 4 x 135 lbs, 2 x 155 lbs, 5x5 @ 185 lbs
Floor Press 6 x 155 lbs, 5 x 155 lbs
Tricep Pushdowns 7 x 150 lbs, 7 x 150 lbs
Lateral Raises 10 x 30 lbs
Front Raises 10 x 30 lbs
Face Pulls 10 x 130 lbs
Notes: Relatively easy day over all considering I didn't eat much of anything and drove 12 hours in the past 2 days. I'm just happy I hit all my reps on the flat bench!
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16-Oct-05, 05:16 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
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VERY nice, particularly considering you musta been drained!
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Goals: bench - 200; squat - 225; deadlift - 225
27/01/06: bench - 170; squat - 195 (wrapped); deadlift - 210; total - 575; need - 617; to go - 42
"Illegitimi non carborundum"
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16-Oct-05, 07:17 PM
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Thanks three  I plan to get a very good night's sleep tonight! |
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16-Oct-05, 09:06 PM
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I wouldn't call that an easy day. Great work as usual. Those tricep pushdowns are amazing. My best was only 115 for 6.
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16-Oct-05, 11:24 PM
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Well with tricep pushdowns all the cable stacks/machines or whatever are different and have different tension, so I wouldn't really use that as basis for comparison. Thanks for the support Andy and don't forget you got some nice lifts as well. |
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16-Oct-05, 11:46 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gcs118
Well with tricep pushdowns all the cable stacks/machines or whatever are different and have different tension
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don't you just HATE that!?
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Goals: bench - 200; squat - 225; deadlift - 225
27/01/06: bench - 170; squat - 195 (wrapped); deadlift - 210; total - 575; need - 617; to go - 42
"Illegitimi non carborundum"
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17-Oct-05, 01:26 PM
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Absolutely. But I can still get a good workout regardless  |
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17-Oct-05, 02:43 PM
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UPPER BACK, Monday, October 17, 2005
Rack Pulls (Bottom Pin) 10 x 45 lbs, 7 x 135 lbs, 3 x 185 lbs, 3 x 225 lbs, 3 x 275 lbs, 1 x 315 lbs
BORs 6 x 135 lbs, 3 x 155 lbs, 6 x 175 lbs, 6 x 175 lbs, 6 x 175 lbs
Chin Ups BWx6, BWx6, BWx6
Seated Cable Rows 6 x 100 lbs, 6 x 120 lbs
Shrugs 23 x 135 lbs RP 7 x 135 lbs
BB Curls 6 x 85 lbs, 10 x 65 lbs
Notes: What a day...Hammy starting hurting right away from rack pulls, next time I'm using the pin higher so it's almost all back. We'll see how that turns out. BORs went alright, I used a wider than normal grip, still pretty heavy. Cable rows were tough, I dunno why they were so hard on this machine. Shrugs were horrible, but I haven't done them in a couple years. Just gotta get back in the groove, the weight was light. Felt weak all around today... |
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