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30-Jun-05, 06:59 AM
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Heroes4Heroes
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Originally Posted by rangers97
shrugs didn't do them--i experimented with a behind the back grip aka " jaster shrugs" and I didn't like it at all and almost dropped the bar and made a fool of myself so I just gathered my belongings and went on my way, nice and inconspicuously....lol |
Yeah they do take getting used too.
I tell anyone who wants to try them "They are not for everyone"
I am glad you gave them a try though.
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30-Jun-05, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaster
Yeah they do take getting used too.
I tell anyone who wants to try them "They are not for everyone"
I am glad you gave them a try though.
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Yeah, they got such rave reviews, I said, "why not?" and tried it, but maybe because I have very inflexible wrists it just didn't work out. My gym fortunately has a trap bar, which I find works best for me, but like you said, at least I tried it 
The worst part was there was this puny little kid doing regular barbell shrugs right next to me with like 185 on the bar...here I am normally doing 280-300 with the trap bar, loading the barbell with 135 and practically dropping it, lol...the kid was just looking at me like I was an ass or something...he was probably thinking, yeah look at this big goon, can't even do shrugs with more weight than me@! I'll just have to make sure he is there the next time I bench  |
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30-Jun-05, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by gcs118
You should focus on losing the few extra pounds AFTER you get to the 300 bench. I think the road to repping 300 will be a lot shorter if you just focus on it and eat for it. |
You know I think about that all the time....I want my weights to go up in the gym, but I want to lose the stomach at the same time, I know, a recipe for disaster. The unfortunate thing is that of course I decide right now that the 300 bench is what I want to get to and it is summer time, so you want to look your best as well. Thats the reason for all the dietary concerns is for summer, I figure I have been lifting weights for so many years, but have never really had a six pack, so why not now? Then I do some big lifts and think that I want to lift a truck the next time out, so you see, my goals I guess are conflicting. Can I do both? Like you said, I think so, but it will definitely take longer.
Question for all you strength guys---say I do decide to up the calories or the protein and I get my 300 bench for reps, then decide to restrict calories to lose the weight....will the strength at least stay once you have it during a "calorie cut"? If you build up to that level of strength , will it stay since you got up to it, or will it suffer a bit regardless? |
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30-Jun-05, 08:58 AM
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Hi Drama Queen
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Near Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
Fat slows gastric emptying, keeps you from being hungry, isn't as easily converted to glycogen and glucose and therefore doesn't store as fat as quickly as excess carbs do.
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um... the research doesn't seem to agree with that statement: http://docnews.diabetesjournals.org/...nt/full/2/2/16
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27/01/06: bench - 170; squat - 195 (wrapped); deadlift - 210; total - 575; need - 617; to go - 42
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30-Jun-05, 09:16 AM
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Busy
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by rangers97
Yeah, they got such rave reviews, I said, "why not?" and tried it, but maybe because I have very inflexible wrists it just didn't work out. My gym fortunately has a trap bar, which I find works best for me, but like you said, at least I tried it
The worst part was there was this puny little kid doing regular barbell shrugs right next to me with like 185 on the bar...here I am normally doing 280-300 with the trap bar, loading the barbell with 135 and practically dropping it, lol...the kid was just looking at me like I was an ass or something...he was probably thinking, yeah look at this big goon, can't even do shrugs with more weight than me@! I'll just have to make sure he is there the next time I bench |
Yeah, the jaster shrugs can be tricky. I do them on the smith machine since its an isolation exercise anyway. That way you can get your feet (and butt) further out in front of you with worrying about tipping over.
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30-Jun-05, 10:49 AM
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i'm bored at work right now, so I am gonna post my diet from yesterday just for s*it's and giggles:
meal1: myoplex shake + 1 serving shredded wheat
meal2: 1 sirloin burger
meal3: subway 6" turkey sandwhich on wheat bread + 1 can tuna
meal4: promax bar
pre workout: 1 scoop whey + 1 scoop maltodextrin
post workout: 1 scoop whey + 2 scoops malto + 5g creatine
meal5: 2 teriyaki chicken breasts + 1 cup brown rice
meal6: 1 can tuna
Still working on it, but I'm getting there I think |
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30-Jun-05, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by threenorns
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OK, it still works for me - and the physicians I've discussed it with all agree.
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30-Jun-05, 07:43 PM
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thursday 6/30
shoulders/tris
seated military press 165 x 6, 7 185 x 3 (just for fun , lol, obviously too heavy FOR NOW)
db side laterals 25 x 10 30 x 7
cable side laterals 50 x 7, 6
reverse pec dec laterals 120 x 7, 6
close grip bench press 245 x 6, 5
tri pushdowns 180 x 8, 8
might eliminate these as I see no need to do these after a 245 close grip press, considering I have bad elbows to begin with and these things aggrivate them more than they are worth, one of these days I will learn. I think the close grips along with the dips and heavy benching will be sufficient for my tris, at least i hope so anyways |
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30-Jun-05, 07:45 PM
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Why did you do DB lateral raises and then cable lateral raises? Isn't that the same exercise, one with a machine and one with dumbbells?
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30-Jun-05, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk
Why did you do DB lateral raises and then cable lateral raises? Isn't that the same exercise, one with a machine and one with dumbbells?
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basically but not really, a little different feel--I do them both because I want to focus on bringing out my side delts a little more, I feel they are lacking...I want that "ball" look on my shoulder, which I don't have yet, so I'm trying harder, lol |
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30-Jun-05, 08:01 PM
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PowerLifter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Detroit Barbell - Michigan
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You'll get there just watch the volume. It's a small muscle, you don't need to be drilling the delts individually too hard.
If you develop nice traps, that'll make your shoulders look real nice too. Just don't have traps so big that the rest of you isn't caught upwith them. Then i think it looks silly lol.
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30-Jun-05, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk
Just don't have traps so big that the rest of you isn't caught upwith them. Then i think it looks silly lol.
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Right, if they stick up past your ears - it's too much.
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30-Jun-05, 08:08 PM
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LOL. There's people out there that have big traps and not big enough other parts so they look retarded IMO.
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"Strength Gains are the Key to Muscle Growth".
"You will miss some and you will make some but what happens with these sets WILL determine your future strength."
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30-Jun-05, 08:14 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Near Toronto, Ontario
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ah, yes: "next, we have crusher, sporting the ever-popular fire hydrant physique..."
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27/01/06: bench - 170; squat - 195 (wrapped); deadlift - 210; total - 575; need - 617; to go - 42
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30-Jun-05, 08:46 PM
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That's some nice military pressin'. I'd love to hit 185!
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