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Old 17-Jul-04, 02:05 PM   #1
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Nitro's crazy anti-theories workout & diet plan!


Right, you'll all call me stupid and ignorant, but I feel like trying something different. Recently I've been doing everything I can to do a perfect routine and diet...and I've gained fat when I was supposed to be cutting. I'm getting quite distressed.

So, this journal is rebelling against most theories. Possibly I'll get in worse shape, but I'm not improving with my current routine.

I've become so obsessed with the timings etc that it's controlling me instead of the other way round. And I'm meant to be eating loads more calories but honestly I can't fit it in my belly, nor can I afford it. Cheap is the way forward!

A weird feeling, but when I'm hungry I feel more alert and can focus on my work. Before I would always worry about booze, and that there's nothing pure enough at restaurants! Enough of that!

My main reasoning for all this? A few months back I was binging on chocolate and sweets daily, didn't do very intense workouts, and I was probably in better shape then than I am now. Go figure!

And when I was at university I was living off tins of tomato spaghetti and just working out in my room, and in much better shape then!!

- 3 meals a day, max 4, not 6. They'll be healthy low-fat meals, still all
wholemeal etc, but I'm not going to worry too much about protein. Yup
you heard me! In fact microwave dinners are my plan as I'm after
convenience. These meals are about 300 calories each which I'll only
be having for lunch and dinner, with just a yoghurt or apple for breakfast.

- No protein shakes! I feel bloated when drinking them, I'm fed up of going
to buy milk again every couple of days. Not even around workouts.
- If I want pasta or bread in the middle of the day then screw it, I'm gonna!
(small quantaties still however)
- Lots of fruit for snacks! This insulin spike stuff is lost on me. I feel healthy
eating it so I'm gonna. Lots of veggies too of course.
- Lots of water (no change there )
- If I have the odd choccie bar I will NOT feel guilty!!! But I shall keep it as a
treat.

- Working each bodypart twice per week -Mon/Thur Tue/Fri Wed/Sat
- Not doing sets or even progressive overload or even heavy weight, I'm
going to focus on my form and do it for a length of time instead. Eg
pushups for 15 mins. Length of rest between sets: 30 secs max.
Overtraining? Very possibly. I'm not writing the reps down, I'm just doing
as much as I can on that day.
- Cardio 6 days a week in the morning, 4 mile run. HIIT hasn't been working
for me obviously.

Starting stats: 20 yrs old
5'7 (well yes I know that won't change)
164 lbs (would like to get down to 150)
35 inch waist...I WILL get down to 32. I WILL!!!
And I WILL lose those damn love handles! Grrrr!
Bodyfat: too much

So...planning to lose 1lb a week my goal is to get down to 150 in 14 weeks.
Bout the 30th of october or something. Well, here goes!

Here's my current pic to keep me motivated to get rid of that belly and compare in a few months time:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chris.baker/dazjuly.jpg

The worst that can happen is I lose muscle and gain fat *gulp* but it seems I've been doing that anyway. So what the hell?

Watch this space
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Old 17-Jul-04, 02:13 PM   #2
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On a side note - to Todd and co. for giving me advice yesterday. I did take everything you said on board, but then I thought actually my carbs are lower right now anyway then they were a few weeks ago (atkins was actually a couple of months back, i got my dates mixed up)... so I figured I should be losing regardless anyway even without post-workout carbs.

So thanks again And I will probably go back to that way of training after this probably fails lol. I kinda feel I need to do the above though, perhaps just to prove it to myself that it's not the right way. Hope that makes sense.

And thanks to everyone who's posted replies to my probably annoying questions over the last year. But I feel so boggled with information I've decided to just do things my way. They do say listen to your body, right?
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Old 17-Jul-04, 03:50 PM   #3
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well im not gonna call you stupid or ignorant, i just don't think this is the best way to go about accomplishing your goals... anyone else with me on this?

i'm all for people trying new things, but they have to be trying them for a reason, based on evidence or something...
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Old 17-Jul-04, 04:37 PM   #4
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Well I guess it's because of when I had a more unguided way of fitness I actually felt things were better for me then. Although I guess that's personal evidence rather than scientific.
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Old 17-Jul-04, 05:28 PM   #5
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Somewhere during your training/diet you must have done something wrong. If you are cutting and gain weight, your diet sucks and you don't either know your maintanance or you don't know what is in your food.

If you seriously want to try your yes... stupid plan, go ahead. If i were you i would rethink your training and diet. I will be willing to help you get a good plan going if you show me your previous plan/diet.
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Old 17-Jul-04, 06:30 PM   #6
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Hiya


Thanks for the post on my journal. My diet was basically low fat, high protein, moderate carb for a while. And in those few weeks I gained fat. Had a discussion with Todd on the forums yesterday and he said to only take carbs after my workout apart from fibrous but I just feel a bit disheartened at the moment, that I was making an effort and my body threw it back in my face so to speak. I was eating healthier than before with a higher amount of protein..yet I gained fat.

But you're right, I don't know what my maintenance is. They say you can only tell by how your body changes...but that would take forever to work out surely. Because say 1 week I gain 1 pound, it could have been i burned slightly less calories because I didn't work as hard or something instead of what you consumed, but only slightly, and you wouldn't know.

The worst problem is the expense. I can't consume so many calories of shakes and chicken and tuna. Not just that, but I can't fit it in me.

This anti-theories workout will probably go wrong but I just feel happier this way somehow.
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Old 17-Jul-04, 07:06 PM   #7
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What was the approxiamete macronutrient split? If you do not want help i won't give it to you, but if you are still up for it post your routine and goals.
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Old 18-Jul-04, 05:17 AM   #8
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yeah list the exact foods you ate, you can't just say "high protein low fat" because apparently that's not true since you gained weight. we need to know your:

workout
exact diet
height\weight\body type
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Old 18-Jul-04, 06:20 AM   #9
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http://www.discussfitness.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23275
is my original routine and diet
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Old 18-Jul-04, 09:05 AM   #10
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Nitromoose, I don't know, after looking at your pic and reading this, seems like you have a distorted image of yourself as being all pudgy and I don't think so at all.
Your pic looks just fine
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P.S. kill the microwave dinners and eat a bigger breakfast.....
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Well I know I'm not fat-fat but I don't have a 6 pac either
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I see lines on upper abs nitro........
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Old 18-Jul-04, 01:41 PM   #14
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chris.baker/dazold.jpg

Just found this. Above is a pic months ago. Looks like I have gained muscle in chest and arms perhaps, but it seems I looked a lot slimmer back then, even without a 6 pac.
compared to:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chris.baker/dazjuly.jpg

But then I'm standing at different distances from the camera and the lightning is different so...hmm.
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What rep ranges do you use in your routine and what movements?
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