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Old 22-Feb-04, 04:51 PM   #16
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Hey Lil'Lifter, I didn't know you were over here too besides BMass, cool. Anyway, what exactly are hammer presses, I couldn't find them listed at exrx or any other sites for an example.
I was over here before BMass, it is good to see you over here too :

Hammer press is what I use in place of flyes, Scorpio from Bmass told me about them I will try to describe them as best I can.

For starers you set the bench to incline, then you take two dumbbells and hold them vertically like you do during hammer curls (hence the name hammer press). Lying on the bench bring the weights down to your chest keeping your elbows close to your body, then press up and repeat for reps.

Let me know if you are confused by that description I am kind of bad at explaining things.
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Old 22-Feb-04, 05:18 PM   #17
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I think I got the picture pretty well, thanks. I'll give em a try some time.
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Old 22-Feb-04, 06:01 PM   #18
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So they are basically db presses with a hammer grip?
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Old 22-Feb-04, 07:10 PM   #19
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So they are basically db presses with a hammer grip?
pretty much, just keep the elbows in a little more.
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Old 25-Feb-04, 04:45 AM   #20
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i personally think front raises are pointless if not useless. if someone is doing bench, incline, and shoulder/military press then they are working the front delts enough. just my opinion though.
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Old 25-Feb-04, 04:58 AM   #21
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Was thinking on the same lines as Cursor. One Arm DB Rows, Kickbacks, Flyes etc are decent routines, but IMO use a lot of energy when you could get more benefit from BB Rows, Cable Rows, Skullcrushers etc. As for things that are a complete waste of time, the only thing I never consider is the abductor machine thing, or any routine where people use a really light weight for zillions of reps.
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Old 25-Feb-04, 05:14 AM   #22
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Agree, front raises - what's the point
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Old 25-Feb-04, 03:31 PM   #23
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crunches are useless without a diet, you'll see 0 results.
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Old 26-Feb-04, 03:40 PM   #24
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crunches are useless without a diet, you'll see 0 results.
unless u have a high metabolism!
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Old 26-Feb-04, 03:53 PM   #25
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unless u have a high metabolism!
so true, i ahve a six pack without diet or ab work. but since i started doing ab work a little while ago, my abs ahave gotten awesome. i guess i do eat well compared to most people, but its definitely gotta be cuz of the metabolism.
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Old 26-Feb-04, 05:33 PM   #26
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i'm still unclear as to why lateral raises and pec flys are useless...? they may not be great for overall side, but they might be good for creating a more "full" shape and adding definition to smaller muscles?

what gets me is when i see big guys doin' that groin exercise... you know, the one where you sit with your legs in a split position...

i'm pretty sure lunges aren't working my legs as its usually my grip that fails before anything else... but i like doin' 'em. gets me sweatin'...
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Old 26-Feb-04, 05:47 PM   #27
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High metabolism sucks when your trying to gain mass.
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Old 26-Feb-04, 06:19 PM   #28
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Do them with a barbell w/ heavier weight if grip is a problem.
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High metabolism sucks when your trying to gain mass.
yesi t does, but beats being fat any day
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Dumbbell flyes- I am just not seeing this exercise as adding much mass,
I didnt think it was and exercise for adding mass.I use it as a stretching exercise after a first heavy bench set.I always obtain a better stretch from doing flyes then grabbing ahold of the side of the cable machine and twisting my arm behind my back,like I see half the members in the gym do.....lol
My flies are done moderatly heavy and real real slow....for 1 x 10-12
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