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Old 10-Jan-05, 03:43 PM   #31
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I believe that to be somewhat true Khaine. I am convinced that some people were just meant to lift. Speaking about big benches, those people will progress more quickly. Genetics play a huge role in lifting. I see skinny dudes at the gym who look like they have no place lifting more than 95lbs. yet, they pound out 12 reps of 225 with good form. Alot of these guys have long arms and alot of torque built into their frame. I personally am a short, stumpy dude with short limbs and that takes away alot from my bench, squat and a few other lifts. Now, none of this translates into size because I am a big boy yet my weights are below alot of peoples'. I build muscle very easily but strength-wise I am average. I think there are many factors that create a large lift.

It is true that different builds will result in certian lifts possibly being easier. I've always wondered what specific builds are best for each of the big 3. However, I've never that let that idea hinder me mentally one bit.
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Old 10-Jan-05, 05:11 PM   #32
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That would depend on your original build, no.....? I had great progress strength wise for the first six months and could definitely see my muscles getting larger and more defined, but then, I started out wit a small, skinny frame and low bf%.... I find it likely that a person who is looking to LOSE weight as well as get stronger and more defined would take longer to see results in all areas, and thus would be more prone to getting discouraged.....
I'd think just the opposite really. Skinny people take alot longer to see muscle growth (so it seems) and genearlly get discouraged and start to think they will Never have that big build that they dream of.

I come from the other end, have a large frame and am trying to cut. I've seen awesome strength gains but what I get frustrated about is the length of time it takes to cut fat and cut fat properly. lol

So yeah I guess it does depend on where you're coming from.
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Old 11-Jan-05, 12:17 AM   #33
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I cut down my weight first, then started working on strength. Worked pretty fine, I saw some fairly great gains. Its sorta evened out over the last few months though, been way too busy so I'm barely getting in 3 days a week. Once classes start I actually have 3 days specifically set aside where I have time to lift no matter what, and I bet I can get in another 2 on my own easily...can't wait for that.

Part of it is just how much you're willing to put into it. If someone REALLY wants the strength, they put in the effort to get it. If they don't...then they don't and they give up.

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Old 11-Jan-05, 02:34 PM   #34
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my arms are about 14" which i would say is about a big as the average non fat bastard man. I suck a bench and can only do about 80kg max (179 lbs)
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Old 22-Jan-05, 08:49 PM   #35
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I read in a Men's Fitness or Men's Health(not sure which one), a few months back that the average guy could bench 93% of his body weight. Which isn't much, but, it's true if you think about it. The average person, never touches weights.
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Old 22-Jan-05, 09:07 PM   #36
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I read in a Men's Fitness or Men's Health(not sure which one), a few months back that the average guy could bench 93% of his body weight. Which isn't much, but, it's true if you think about it. The average person, never touches weights.
Yikes, I have some work to do! LOL 93% of my BW is 218lbs. and only now can I bench 215 for 8 reps.
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Old 22-Jan-05, 09:25 PM   #37
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Yikes, I have some work to do! LOL 93% of my BW is 218lbs. and only now can I bench 215 for 8 reps.
It means as a maximum 1 rep I think.

Its mostly for those who lack weight training though, and the average person just doesn't lift a lot. The average lifter who's been at it a while should at least be able to do their own bodyweight for 1 rep, and probably more than that.
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Old 24-Jan-05, 11:31 AM   #38
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I'd say the average lifter has 13'' inch arms. Come to my university gym and 90% of the guys in there are about that size.
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Old 24-Jan-05, 02:35 PM   #39
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That 93% sounds about right. I dont think we should put a specific number on the lift as it is so dependent on body type and size.
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Old 24-Jan-05, 03:46 PM   #40
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I'd say the average lifter has 13'' inch arms. Come to my university gym and 90% of the guys in there are about that size.
Scary where I'm at man, its like everyone has 16-18 inch arms here, I always feel like I'm puny when I go to work out
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Old 15-Feb-05, 11:29 AM   #41
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average depends on what you are comparing it too...or the "base"

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Old 20-Feb-05, 07:52 PM   #42
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i doubt the average bench press is over 200.
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Old 20-Feb-05, 08:55 PM   #43
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Any arm size under 16 and i don't think most men look like men. You can pull it off with a small build but i wouldn't be able to stand having 13 inch arms. My forearms are 14.5 so i just even imagine that on me.
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Old 22-Feb-05, 01:57 PM   #44
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Any arm size under 16 and i don't think most men look like men. You can pull it off with a small build but i wouldn't be able to stand having 13 inch arms. My forearms are 14.5 so i just even imagine that on me.
My arms are under 14
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Old 22-Feb-05, 02:08 PM   #45
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Any arm size under 16 and i don't think most men look like men.
Uh, what?! Talk about stereotyping! Isn't that about like saying that if women don't have breast/chest girths greater than 33" then they don't look like women? That perspective is just a bit narrow, don't you think?
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