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Old 27-Sep-05, 09:29 AM   #31
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hmmmmm.... (picturing someone as strong as jaster but looking like todd)..... <sigh>
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Old 27-Sep-05, 01:51 PM   #32
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I think we all want to be as strong as Jaster....me included!
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And I want to look like Todd!
LOL ... "the grass is always greener", isn't it?
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Old 27-Sep-05, 02:23 PM   #33
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LOL ... "the grass is always greener", isn't it?
YEP! LOL!
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Old 27-Sep-05, 08:13 PM   #34
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LOL ... "the grass is always greener", isn't it?
Grass Grass!?!
All I see is Rag weed!!!! AAAAAaaaachhhoooo00000OOOOO!
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Old 12-Apr-06, 02:47 PM   #35
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I added some new pics dated 3/25/06 to my first post in this thread. Sadly, they are fat pics. I need to burn the fat this month and get some sun - they are kind of hard to see when you are as pale as I am.

Six months later after some "clean" eating. The camera is a great tool to evaluate and re-evaluate with. The tape tells me 12% - it's probably closer to 20. I worked my way up to around 3000 calories/day - about 300 over maintenance getting about 50% protien, 40% carbs (mostly complex), and 10% fat. Although I gained weight and got stronger, I'm pretty sure the weight gain was all fat. Definitely not worth the gastric distress I inflicted on myself to get there. Now I'm back to my controlled carb diet that I did well on before. Higher fat, lower carbs, make sure I get enough protein. Carb up days on leg/back day for enhanced recovery. Very low carbs on non-exercise days.
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Old 29-Apr-06, 06:29 AM   #36
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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this already but your chest just seems slightly outta proportion. You might wanna work on that a bit. But honestly, you look great man.
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Old 29-Apr-06, 07:22 AM   #37
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Seems a lot out of proportion to me. Yeah, it needs a lot of work - it doesn't grow well.
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Old 29-Apr-06, 09:05 AM   #38
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Seems a lot out of proportion to me. Yeah, it needs a lot of work - it doesn't grow well.
DECLINE PRESSES Andy....Do these as your main chest movement and I will guarantee that your chest grows. A slight decline, like 15-20 degrees would be the best, but man, it is a great bodybuilding movement IMO despite what people say about lower chest, which we know is false, there is no lower chest, it will just develop your chest as a whole. The movement allows you to pretty much bench heavy with "elbows" out and completely nail the chest. The 295 decline I did yesterday felt like all chest to be honest with you, and despite some nasty DOMS this morning, no other discomfort at all....Try it :
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Old 29-Apr-06, 09:18 AM   #39
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I do 'em all, incline-decline, flat for 1.5 years...not much improvement, only a little. Hopefully my new program will allow me to eventually push more weight, which will allow it to grow more. If not, I'm gonna start trying hundreds of sets of low, low weight.
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Old 29-Apr-06, 09:21 AM   #40
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Closer to 20 percent my ass. Lookin good man.
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Old 29-Apr-06, 10:46 AM   #41
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Dark, if there's one thing I've learned about welch from reading his journal, its that he refuses to give himself credit for anything. He's his own biggest critic, which I think is what motivates him. Either that or he accidentally bought one of those carnival mirrors instead of a normal one and ACTUALLY sees a fat guy in the mirror.

In any case, I'm excited to see where you go from here. I repeatedly use you as an anonymous example of the fact that it can be done when you think you've reached that point where you are fat forever. And the example works. So not only should you give yourself a little credit for your achievements, but the handful of others' achievements I know personally that were inspired by your story.

Particularly one guy who's gone from a 200 pound deadlift to just hitting 3 plates a week ago in the course of like 3 months! He's taken to fitness in such a smart, paced, and consistent way that I wish I started as that way instead of going full throttle. I think I've said it before that I take as much pleasure out of a PR that I help someone attain as my own. Part of those PR's are yours too. :
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Old 29-Apr-06, 03:09 PM   #42
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Guys, you are all very kind. I actually just try to stay honest with myself so that I don't get complacent. I do see the improvements, but I also see the flaws that I need to keep working on. Like the small chest...i need to work on that. The skinny arms - they still need work. The skinnier legs - lots of work to do there. The fat loss - I'm happy with that - just got to be careful not to get that way again. Right now, since I'm cutting - I hope to not lose too much strength, I've actually gained some this cut...hopefully this time I'll actually build a bit of muscle since I'm timing my carbs and using them a little smarter than just eliminating or overloading on them. The more time I spend with this, the more I learn about myself and how I respond, fail to respond, and overtrain.
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Old 29-Apr-06, 10:59 PM   #43
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Don't worry about small this or small that. We're both relatively small guys (I think we're both under 180, not sure what you're weighing in at lately), if muscle is the goal, we need it all over in equal proportion. You know the score, eat big, train heavy, and rest. I think whenever you are done cutting you will be in prime position to put on some solid muscle, if you're head is in it (and if its your goal). You're too afraid of the fat coming back.
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Old 13-May-06, 06:34 PM   #44
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You got my respect, keep up the good work, always give110%, dont let the bar drop.:
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Old 26-May-06, 03:25 PM   #45
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I added to the bottom of the first post. It is the "post cut pics". Results are both encouraging and discouraging. I am leaner than I was 2 months ago, but not lean enough to start a real bulking diet. I have managed to maintain my strength, even increase it a little on some lifts. Yes Brat, my chest is still small. I also included a picture of an ethiopian chicken with aids...my legs. Due to image resizing and hosting, they aren't that great, but you can still see what I've got to work with (not much) and still need to work on (everything). I can't even see the veins in my legs in the photos, they are there in person but just barely. I think I need some sun too.

I think since my strength is still increasing in spite of the time off, the triathalon, the overtraining episodes - I'll keep with the same nutrition plan for another month and see what happens. Then it will be time to see what kind of changes can happen with a PL workout and a PL diet (of course I'll cut again before I get too fat).

As always, honest opinions and specific evaluations are appreciated and helpful as I plan changes to routines and nutrition.

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